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Topic: Standard Pac-Seat Height? Info/Advice Needed |
Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 5 Jun 2007 8:09 pm |
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What is the standard? My Sho~Bud seat is 19" at its highest point on the cushion, and it feels slightly low to me, probably by 2 inches or so. I can't seem to figure out a way to raise it without adding something else to carry, like a plank of wood or something. I feel like I'm sitting "behind" the steel when I should be sort of hovering over it. The other seats I've owned were higher. Please don't ask me why I traded....
Is this seat a little lower than standard, or what?
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 5 Jun 2007 10:31 pm
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Chris,
My first seat was a used Steelers' Choice 'Sidekick'. I didn't know when I bought it, but it was lower than standard at 20". It was only when I bought a second one new from the Rollans that I realised - 21" was the norm.
Without giving it enough thought, I returned it to have it lowered.
Recently, though, I've been examining my posture and wondering if there was room for improvement. After a discussion with my Steel Guru, Russ Wever, I experimented with a 1.5" board. I liked the result, so Dan Rollans has put new legs on both seats (in rotation so that I could keep working!).
At 21'5", I feel this has been a positive decision, and my arms are now much less impeded by the back neck when I'm on E9. I also feel my pick-attack is much better.
I do believe that 21' is regarded as standard.
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James Morehead
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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 5:51 am
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| Hey Chris, An electrician's supply house would not only have the pipe for legs, but would bend them for you, too. I'd block your seat up and see where it feels best, measure it, and simply switch out those legs. I'm like you, I like to sit a little higher. Youmight also consider a drum throne, as they are adjustable. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 6:01 am
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It's hard to find the correct aluminum pipe and even harder to find someone that has a bending jig to get the bend that is needed for legs.
I tried to get some made in Kansas City, which is a relatively large and industrial metropolitan area and couldn't find anyone that had the equipment to bend them to the radius that was needed. |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 6:09 am
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| Jack, a muffler shop should also be able to bend a couple 90's--you may have to take them the pipe, though. |
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Thom Beeman
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California, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 9:15 am
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Jack, e-mail me at, thomb@steelseat.com . I maybe able to help you out. I'm surprised J.M. didn't send you in my direction.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 11:47 am
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I don't need any legs now. That was in late 80's when I was in KC and was building some seats.
There wasn't any muffler shop in KC that I checked with (and I checked a lot of them) that could/would bend the legs for me. I wound up using 3/4" conduit that was cut (mitered) and welded by a friend that was the welding supervisor at a plant that made stainless steel food processing equipment. With the production equipment they had the mitering and welding was exact. The 3/4" conduit held up well and one seat was used by a guy that was at least 225 and never a problem. The last seat I built, with a back using the boat seat hinges, I used for about 6 or 7 years then sold it to Don Sulesky about 10 years ago and it's still going strong and Don told me several people wanted to buy it from him.
When I moved to Florida there was a muffler shop not too far from where I first lived down here and I checked with the guy there about bending legs (I showed him my Steeler's Choice seat) and he said he couldn't do the bend that was on those legs. I showed the Steeler's Choice seat to another muffler shop in the area and the guy there told me the same thing as the other muffler shop. That makes many muffler shops in the Kansas City area and two in New Port Richey Florida that I checked with and none would do it.
I'm out of the seat building "business" but checked here in Florida just in case I got the bug and wanted to custom build one for myself. |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 3:51 pm
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Hey Thom, how ya been?? Fix Chris up, he needs longer legs--he's to short.  While your sending him legs, you might as well bolt one of your cool seats on them!! HA!!
Really, with shipping to Canada, I was thinking of the cost, and maybe he could get it done locally. Shipping cost is getting crazy, right along with fuel prices. 
Jack, seems like a simple thing to do up some legs.
Who would have thought it would be that difficult? Crazy! |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 4:04 pm
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I'm actually in luck. Fellow forumite Doug Earnest who, as many of you know, builds the Stage One steel guitars, has been working in St John's for a few weeks. He came to see my band last weekend, and is coming to the house for a bite to eat on Friday evening. He's going to take a look and figure something out for me.
Thanks for the input and info, guys. As always, much appreciated.
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David Collins
From:
Madison, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 3:35 am
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I've never tried this, so forgive me if it's already a dead issue, but would electrical conduit and a conduit bender work?
1/2" or 3/4" thinwall conduit should certainly be strong enough, is readily available at Lowes, Home Depot, or just about any Hardware Store in small quantities (usually a 10' stick). A bender (hand operated variety) is only a few bucks.
Just curious.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 4:23 am
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| No, a conduit bender does bend it a a sharp enough angle. If you used a conduit bender you would basically wind up with a U shaped bend and no where to clamp the legs to the seat. |
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Dennis Coelho
From:
Wyoming, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 5:21 am Topic: Standard Pac-Seat Height? Info/Advice Needed
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After struggling with a lot of back discomfort, I bought a Tama drummer's throne, one with an attached back support. I found that I needed to get my back higher than my knees when seated at the psg. I'm 6'3", and for me, the custom seats I tried were just too low. I have the throne seat set at 23 inches, which probably compresses a half-inch or so. Feels right to me. The seat detaches easily from the base, which then folds up. Very solidly built.
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 5:24 am
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I would try a drum throne, but I just don't want another thing to carry and set up. I love the seat storage thing, and have grown to rely on it when travelling from gig to gig. It keeps everything compartmentalized, as opposed to knocking around in a bag.
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 8:09 am
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Hey Chris...
Just get out a hacksaw and lower your steel.... |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 8:19 am
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Thanks, Skip, for making me think outside the box.
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Morton Kellas
From:
Chazy, NY, USA 1
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 9:51 am
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Chris, I would just get a hold of some high density foam like Thom Beeman uses on his steel seats.
(steelseat.com) I have one of his seats and believe me, you don't sink down. The foam is about 4" and is comfortable. You can leave you seat legs as they are. If you had lengthened them, you may not have been able to fold them away when you packed up. Just a thought. |
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