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Topic: What is my Sho Bud? |
Sam Nasset
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Montana, USA
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Posted 27 May 2007 1:52 pm |
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| Just starting to learn pedal steel, but I'm not sure what my sho bud is. It's a single 10 with 3 pedals and 2 knee levers, but there are holes drilled for 2 more pedals. Possibly a single c6 tuned to E9? It works pretty well, and I'm pretty sure its not a maverick. Oh, and does anyone know where to get a pedal rod for the C pedal, mine is bent. I've been playing guitar for 10 years and I'm getting pretty hooked on pedal steel, soaking up Lloyd Green and Jimmy Day. I'm not sure how to post pics on here, so maybe I can e-mail to them someone. Thanks for the help. |
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Joe Butcher
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Dallas,Texas, USA
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Posted 27 May 2007 2:40 pm
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sounds like a maverick, or a pro 1 but hard to tell with no pics. you can make your own pedal rods.....just go to the hardware store and buy a metal rod the same diameter as whats already on there, cut it, bend it, and thread the end....if you dont have the tools and you know someone with a metal shop, that would help. to upload pics here, just click where it says "upload picture."
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James Morehead
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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 27 May 2007 3:25 pm
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just bend that rod back. If that won't work, I may have an extra to send you. Email me, I'll post you your pics.  |
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Sam Nasset
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 28 May 2007 2:14 pm
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Ok, lets see if I can post the pics.....The rod isn't necessarily bent, but the threads are flat. Break out the old tap and dye and see what happens.....thanks for the responses. If you need any more pics let me know. I got this steel for $650 with a Peavy Session 500. The guy was a lap steeler who never figured out the pedals. The people who have looked at it think it may be a Pro 1, but I'm not sure. You can change the copedeant at the changer, which I'm not sure if you can on a Maverick. Again, I'm new at this, so all the help/advice/tips are greatly appreciated.
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 28 May 2007 3:41 pm
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| Sam, that's definitely no Maverick. It's a Pro 1, but there are others more qualified than I to talk about it's vintage. You did really well. |
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 May 2007 3:45 pm
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 Bob you are right ,thats not a Maverick . I have two of the newer Sho~Buds with the square bodies . This one has the ''gumby '' keyheads . It's an older Bud worth keeping in my opinion ! G.P. |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 28 May 2007 4:09 pm
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Are you saying you got both the Sho-Bud and the Session 500 for $650?
Even if only the Sho-Bud was $650, that's a heck of a good deal! |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 28 May 2007 4:10 pm
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| My opinion is you have about a 1967-'68 Baldwin era singleneck which is a great tone machine. However, I doubt that you have original undercarrage from what I can see in the pictures. Post a picture of the changer end, and that will tell us more. The original would have been rack & barrel system. You still made a great buy, and that guitar is a great candidate to upgrade, and tons of potential. Looks like the cabinet is in beautiful condition. Did you get a case with it, too? |
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 May 2007 4:20 pm
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It's not a Maverick.
Go here: http://www.jacksonsteelguitar.com/shousyourbud.cfm
That's me in 1972. I had just got this steel shipped to me from Duane Marrs. It is the model 6139. 3 floor and 1 knee. Am I right when I say that there was no such thing as Pro 1 yet?
By the way, 6139 was one notch above the Maverick.
It had the rack and barrel system.
Sure wish I'd a kept it!!
Whaddya think Chris?
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 28 May 2007 5:01 pm
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Yes, it's earlier than the ProI series. Late '60's - very early '70's. The undercarriage isn't original, since this model came with rack and barrel.
I'd say it's an early 6139, but I'm not sure exactly when Sho-Bud started using that model number. I know they were calling them 6139's in 1971, but I'm not positive about any earlier, since this gtr looks to be a little older than that judging by the neck surrounding the changer. And I think I see some drill holes underneath and on the pedal rack that looks like the pedals and the racks may have been located closer to the center of the gtr, like most of the earlier models were. They started moving them further to the left in 1972, I believe, and when this gtr had new guts installed it looks like they might have relocated the pedals to the left.
Nice gtr, however old it is.... |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 28 May 2007 5:38 pm
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Skip must have missed my post above. The neck with the wraparound wood is the Baldwin era, and that was '67-'68ish. If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me.  |
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 28 May 2007 5:46 pm
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| Yeah, I did miss it.... I think you're right on the money. |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 28 May 2007 6:27 pm
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Yeah, I have one that John Coop is fixing a cabinet problem on, and we are doing a full-blown conversion on. I'm pretty excited to check out the tone. I'm told it's a little less "bite-y" and more woody- mellow--enough to give the guitar an acoustic vibe.
And another thing, these wrap-around wood neck guitars are getting real hard to find, so Sam, I think you have a pretty special guitar there. If it had the original rack and barrel, it could sell easily $1000--$1400 plus. And you got one of the best Peavey amps for steel, too. That 500 can beller out some real nice tone, too. And I do mean BELLER! |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 28 May 2007 7:09 pm
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I'm seeing Super Pro-era rods/clips, bellcranks and cross shafts on the ABC pulls......as well as the mid 70's-era two-hole puller parts on the LKL. (Notice the hex shafts on the pedal pulls and the round shaft on the LKL?) Looks like a hybrid. Can we see the full undercarriage?
She's a beauty!!
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Jackson Steel Guitars
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Willis Vanderberg
From:
Petoskey Mi
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Posted 30 May 2007 8:31 pm
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| 6139 guitars had the pu set in a metal facing. Best sounding guitar ever built by ShoBud |
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 31 May 2007 11:27 am
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Wow!!, Sam. $650. with a session 500?
Why cant I ever find deals like that!!!!
YOU DONE GOOD !! IMHO
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Dennis Schell
From:
Shingletown, Shasta county, Kalifornia
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Posted 31 May 2007 12:07 pm
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Welcome Sam! That's an incredible deal you got IMHO!
Dennis
BTW, where are you in Montana? I'm hoping to migrate up there someplace. PM would be greatly appreciated...(So I can pump you for info!)
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Sam Nasset
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 31 May 2007 3:32 pm more pics...............
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| Here are a couple of pics of the undercarraige and the changer. I knew I got a pretty good deal, but I'm really excited to hear all the responses about my steel, especially from folks who know, because I certainly don't. I live in Missoula, MT, and there are literally 3 steel players in town, me being one, my friend Tim (who coincidentaly got a screaming deal on a steel too: 1972 Sho Bud D-10 professional, mint condition, and a Sho Bud 15" amp, for $750! I almost crapped!), and my friend Gibson Hartwell, who is showing me a few things, and he's been playing for a couple of years. But no real hot shot players. My dad uses to play with a fellow named Don Pawlak, who now plays with Dale Watson from Austin, TX. He's a great player, and I've had the pleasure of pickin' with him a couple of times. But people here really don't know what a pedal steel is. They know the sound, but are utterly confused and bewildered when they actually see someone play it. So hopefully after a year or so I can take it to a show and play a song or two. Thanks again for all the help everybody, and I look forward to chatting with ya'll. |
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Sam Nasset
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 31 May 2007 3:38 pm more pics...............
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Here are a couple of pics of the undercarraige and the changer. I knew I got a pretty good deal, but I'm really excited to hear all the responses about my steel, especially from folks who know, because I certainly don't. I live in Missoula, MT, and there are literally 3 steel players in town, me being one, my friend Tim (who coincidentaly got a screaming deal on a steel too: 1972 Sho Bud D-10 professional, mint condition, and a Sho Bud 15" amp, for $750! I almost crapped!), and my friend Gibson Hartwell, who is showing me a few things, and he's been playing for a couple of years. But no real hot shot players. My dad used to play with a fellow named Don Pawlak, who now plays with Dale Watson from Austin, TX. He's a great player, and I've had the pleasure of pickin' with him a couple of times. But people here really don't know what a pedal steel is. They know the sound, but are utterly confused and bewildered when they actually see someone play it. So hopefully after a year or so I can take it to a show and play a song or two. Thanks again for all the help everybody, and I look forward to chatting with ya'll.
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