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Billy Murdoch

 

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Post  Posted 28 May 2007 2:38 am    
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This Emmons is for sale on U.K E bay.
It looks spurious in that the seller has only registered a few days ago,the sale is similar to another a few months ago which was a scam.
The wall socket is USA type although the guitar is supposed to be in Scotland.
Does anyone recognise the foto?
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Bill Ford


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Graniteville SC Aiken
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 4:59 am    
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Billy,
If there is someway you can get a profile on this individual,other than what he posted, I think that would be the way to go.Maybe post in "Steel Players"for someone in his area, and email them privately about him.

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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 5:16 am    
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This is one of the problems with E-bay. He could be a very honest, bedroom picker, just trying to sell off his steel to pay bills, or he could be a scammer.

Scammers usually don't know anything about the item they are claiming to sell. The text in the ad would lead one to believe he knows what he's talking about. So, try asking him a question that only a player would know how to answer...like what's the copedent, or what changes are on the knee lever pulls...get the idea? If he gives you a good, straight answer, I think he's probably legit.

But, there's never a guarentee of anything on E-bay, so we have to try to out-think the crooks as best we can.
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Harvey Richman

 

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Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 5:28 am     Buying on ebay
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Hi Billy. I do a little bit of buying and selling on ebay (my would probably say too much buying). The only way I would buy a high ticket item from someone with 0 feedback is if I could pick it up in person and pay at that time. The seller could be legit and a nice guy, but with no history of transactions you just don't know.
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John Roche


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Post  Posted 28 May 2007 6:21 am    
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It's a scam
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Joe Butcher


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Dallas,Texas, USA
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 6:27 am    
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look here:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=110292
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Lynn Stafford


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Ridgefield, WA USA
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 7:46 am     Fake Auction!!
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Guys,

That guitar used to belong to me!! I actually had it posted for sale here on the Forum last year. No one wanted it, so I sold it on eBay and those are some of my photos.



Take a look for yourself and you can see it's the very same guitar. The 120V wall outlet you see is on the wall of my loft where I used to live in Tigard, Oregon. I shipped the guitar to an active (gigging) steeler in Germany and as far as I know it's still there being played.

This is not the first time I've seen photos of this guitar listed on eBay since I sold it. Last time it was on the USA eBay. This guy even cut and pasted some of my descriptive text just like the last guy did. Maybe he's even the same guy! Last time I saw it, I filed a formal complaint and eBay canciled the auction right after they saw what was going on.

I hope no one ends up being taken for a ride here! I'm going to report this to eBay again in hopes they will put this guy out of business.
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Michael Douchette


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Post  Posted 28 May 2007 8:54 am    
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I reported it.
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Lynn Stafford


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Post  Posted 28 May 2007 9:38 am    
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Thanks Michael, I also reported it.

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Lynn
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Michael Douchette


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Post  Posted 28 May 2007 10:02 am    
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eBay wrote back, they're investigating. I sent them the link to this thread, as well.
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Billy Murdoch

 

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Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 10:54 am    
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Thanks everyone for your help.
I did not at any time consider bidding on this guitar.
I do not want any Steel brothers to get burned.
Fortunately there are many other forumites on both side of the pond who are of the same mind.
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Billy
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 28 May 2007 2:35 pm     Re: Is this a scam?
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Billy Murdoch wrote:
The wall socket is USA type although the guitar is supposed to be in Scotland.
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A very astute observation Billy. There's no way that photo was taken in Scotland, and Lynn has explained that now. Thanks for bringing it up. You've saved someone from being defrauded.
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 3:45 pm    
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Laughing

I see that the seller ended the auction early to sell to the current highest bidder.....who just became an ebay member today(!) Yeah, right. Rolling Eyes

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Billy Murdoch

 

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Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.
Post  Posted 28 May 2007 11:45 pm    
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And they all lived happily ever after.
No charred digits.
Watch out for him having another try in about two months time.
Thanks to all.Best regards
Billy
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