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Topic: Carter starter? Good or bad? |
Larry Otis
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Napa, California, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 2:54 pm |
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| I tried PS awhile back and figured i didn't have enough time left to give it the attention it deserves and demands. I had a nice Fessenden S10 worked over by Tom Bradshaw and it was sweet but......alas I sold it. there's a Carter starter set with everything you need on fleabay I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on at about $600 with a lot of extras. Then if I feel like I get some real music going I'd step up some. I would sure appreciate some input from you folks. With best regards, Larry Otis |
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Jerry H. Moore
From:
Newnan, GA, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 3:19 pm
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Jeremy Threlfall
From:
now in Western Australia
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Posted 22 May 2007 3:21 pm
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Alan Kirk
From:
Scotia, CA, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 3:44 pm
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The Starter is a great place to begin, despite what some of the snobs on this Forum have to say to the contrary.
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Ben Rubright
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Punta Gorda, Florida, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 4:39 pm
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| I have a GFI Ultra D10 but we spend 4 months living in a trailer in PA during the summer and the GFI is just too big for the trailer so I have a Carter Starter just for that purpose. I like it fine. It's tone is very good and it stays in tune so well. The only downside with it is the long travel of left knee right (lowering the E's) that I have not as yet solved. You cannot change the pedal/knee lever arrangement but hey for $600-700 it is a fine guitar. |
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Casey Lowmiller
From:
Kansas
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Posted 22 May 2007 7:34 pm
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It will stay in tune very well, the pickup sounds pretty decent & it is very light-weight.
I had a Carter Starter & everytime I move my heavier steels around...I wish I still had it!!! I think it weighed in at 26lbs...it's a very portable steel & it would be great if you were tkaing it back & forth between lessons or something.
Casey
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 7:45 pm
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GOOD! I have never seen anything with the Carter name that was not good. Bud's name don't go on junk.
Jerry |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 7:54 pm
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| I came close to buyin a Carter Starter several years ago when I got back into Pedal Steel but I knew I was gonna really stick with it this time and opted to wait a little longer and wound up buyin a Carter D-10 instead. Awesome guitars for sure! |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 8:09 pm
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Andy, as is the Magnum. I am currently playing a D10 Magnum sharing about equal time with Emmons and I love both the Magnum and the Emmons. I would strongly recommend the Carter Starter as a first guitar but if cost is not a factor you can't go wrong with a Carter or Magnum in my opinion.
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Larry Otis
From:
Napa, California, USA
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Posted 22 May 2007 8:18 pm Carter Starter? Good or bad?
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| Thank you all. I'm sold. Regards, Larry Otis |
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Brandon Ordoyne
From:
Needville,Texas USA
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Posted 23 May 2007 4:26 am
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I had a Carter-Starter as well. You can go wrong for the money 
Brandon
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William Fraser
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 23 May 2007 6:35 am Carter starter
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I am one of the snobs who said unkind things & raised a few hackles when I made some foolish comments re a C.S in a local music store. As fate would have it I am giving lessons to the gent who bought it. Other than the problem Ben mentioned re lowering the E's it is easy to transport & tune,& the tone is just fine. Again my apologies to ALL offended parties.  Billy Lee Fraser
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Jeff Harbour
From:
Western Ohio, USA
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Posted 23 May 2007 2:04 pm
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Funny this would come up. I just ordered the hard shell case for my Starter, and It should be here tomorrow. Even though I now have a GFI D-10, the Starter is gonna fit much better on the packed church stage as well as be easier to carry in.
As a long-time guitar player, I equate it with my Epiphone Emperor: Inexpensive compared to an equivalant classic Gibson, but NOT "cheap" by any means. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 23 May 2007 5:00 pm
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As Bill Parsons once said...
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Buy you a gitar, and put it in tune.
You'll be a rockin' and a rollin' soon! |
The CS is probably the cheapest way to find out if you're going to have the dedication it takes to be a player. |
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 23 May 2007 5:57 pm
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The only concern I have for you, Larry, is you said you had a Fessy.
Don't expect the CS to be the same quality as the Fessy, or you'll be disappointed. A Pro Carter is on par with a Fessy.
The CS is a third the price, and an excellent value. |
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Jerry H. Moore
From:
Newnan, GA, USA
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Posted 24 May 2007 5:10 am
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| I've been checking out that new Jackson Blackjack. That would be my choice for an entry level "priced" guitar. The guitar looks like a pro model to me and it's upgradeable. The underside looks better than the CS. What I mean is the linkage looks stronger. I hear that it's light. Maybe not to light that it's a problem being stable. Anyway, I would at least check this guitar out for a first guitar. |
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 May 2007 5:17 am Jackson Blackjack
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True, but there's a big price difference once you add the KLs.
It's more of a pro model. Jackson's web site even calls it a "professional grade guitar " |
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Ben Rubright
From:
Punta Gorda, Florida, USA
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Posted 24 May 2007 5:46 am
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Donny:
That Bill Parsons was really Bobby Bare. |
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 24 May 2007 11:02 am
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 Larry i would try to find a used ''pro'' guitar before buying a student model that you will sell soon after you learn more about pedal steel guitar ! G.P. |
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Sonny Priddy
From:
Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 24 May 2007 6:33 pm magnum
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| The Magnum Is Great I Have One. SONNY. |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 25 May 2007 2:18 pm
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| Larry, do a "search" on this topic because it comes up about once a month... |
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Bobbe Seymour
From:
Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 25 May 2007 7:40 pm
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I just got a good stock of CS hard cases in yesterday. May have a few of these great little guitars left also,
Bobbe
SteelGuitar Nashville |
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Leonard G. Robertson
From:
Ozark, Mo. USA
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Posted 26 May 2007 6:20 am Carter Starter
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 26 May 2007 6:55 am
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The CS are a great entry into steel, affordable, and keep their value resonably well when you want to upgrade. Kudos to Carter for making these available- I'll bet in a few years we'll see a number of pros who started on these guitars.
Apart from the long knee throw mentioned, one thing I've seen on every one of these that my students bring in- one of the knee levers uses a round head phillips screw as the body stop- and with the little bit of slop in the knee lever, the end of the lever can slip off the screw to one side or the other, pulling the change too far, and eventually bending the lever or bracket. Beginners can't tell if it's the guitar, or them.
I always take out that screw and replace it with a small piece of flat aluminum, so the lever can't slip. I think that needs to be done on every one of these. |
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Alan Kirk
From:
Scotia, CA, USA
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Posted 26 May 2007 10:12 am
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| I always take out that screw and replace it with a small piece of flat aluminum, so the lever can't slip. I think that needs to be done on every one of these. |
Thanks, Mark. Great advice--should be forwarded to Carter. That phillips head screw stop is a bad idea they ought to do away with. Absolute worst feature of the Starter.
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