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Topic: BMI listed on Ebay |
David Fields
From: South Carolina, USA
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Larry Jamieson
From: Walton, NY USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 5:48 pm
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David,
It looks to be in pretty good shape. These were well built guitars, but do not seem to have a high resale value. I sold one like this 7 or 8 years ago for $700. Considering that you can get a brand new Carter Starter with four knee levers for about $795, I wouldn't be too quick to pay $1250 for the BMI.
The changer looks like a double raise, double lower. If you are interested, bid a lower price to start with, and see if the reserve price is met by your bid. To win on e-bay, you usually have to bid during the last 30 seconds of the auction. Wait until then to bid the most you are willing to pay...
Hope this helps.
Larry J. |
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James Sission
From: Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2007 4:12 am
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I have a BMI D-10 that is very much like this guitar. I have the same changer, pedals, rods, finish and all. I would have to agree with the above poster that 1250 is pretty steep on a 3 x 3, although I would take this over a Carter Starter any day, it seems a little high on price. Mine is a 5 X 8 and I paid 1250 for it 2 months ago if that helps you decide.......James
Oops...Edited, I paid 1250, not 1350 for mine. Here is a link to the one I own.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=101758&highlight=bmi |
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Lem Smith
From: Long Beach, MS
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Posted 4 Apr 2007 1:10 pm
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The one on Ebay also comes with a Goodrich volume pedal. I don't think $1250.00 for both would be too bad.
Absolutely no offense at all to the Carter Starter, but there's really no comparison between this BMI and a starter model. For one, you can change the setup on the BMI, and it's not difficult to do. I've owned two that looked identical to the one for sale, and there were both good guitars. The biggest problem was like one of the other posters said, their resell value isn't all that great, compared to something like Sho~Bud, Emmons PP, etc...
Lem |
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Pat Burns
From: Branchville, N.J. USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2007 1:17 pm
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...I own 2 Emmons Push/Pulls, and a D-10 BMI. The BMI sounds and plays great. I don't think $1250 including a volume pedal is out of line. A BMI is not a toy... |
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William Fraser
From: New York, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 5:21 am
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Hey David , I thought I would put my 2 cents in. I buy & sell odd items on ebay,& keep a close & constant watch on psg's. ZB 's are usually a good buy, but, most steels go for more than the prices on the FORUM & they tend to need to be set up. For a beginner you will have your hands full learning to play & re? learning theory, you need a steel that operates properly & stays in tune.If you post a steel wanted ad ,& have 12 to $ 1500 to spend you can get a dandy of a d-10 that will play well & be able to interact with the owner. As a beginner it will be at least a couple of months before you start to gig & haul the thing around so a heavy D-10 would be OK .S-10 models are more desirable if you aren't interested in the C6 neck,& easier to play BUT I wish I had learned both necks initially C6 is a lot of fun. Sho-Buds are a great guitar & will appreciate & steelers tend to stick together & you can trust forum members to help you out. Take your time & check out a few on the forum ,I won't name names but, I bet Duane Reese probrarly has a dandy ready to go.I would try a BMI SHO-BUD MSA or a Carter & see which you like , pedal size,& feel mean more than the brand. Lastly, get Winnie Winston & Bill Kieth's Book & read it! Good Luck Billy Lee Fraser. let _________________ Billy Lee ,Pro-II,, Session 400,Session 500 , Supro , National, SpeedDemons,& too many Archtops & Stratotones.Lots of vintage parts for Kay ! etc. |
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James Sission
From: Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 5:49 am
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Did you notice the email he got from Australia? He told the guy he would be willing to pay 200 dollars of the shipping cost if the guy paid 1250 for the guitar. That obviously means he would go 1050 for the guitar. I would bet that if you bid 900 to 950 you would reach his reserve price and get that guitar. I think that would be more reasonable for a single 10 with 3 kneesā¦..James |
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Paul Redmond
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2007 12:01 am
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That particular model appears to be a 'leftover' student model (all of those had the identical parts and changer assemblies as the 'pro' stuff) from the so-called 'drilled endplate' era. Zane used to drill individual holes for each 'position' useable in the changer. Yes, they are 2-raise, 2-lower changers. Sometime in early 1979 Zane used the 'open' endplate idea instead of all the individual holes. I have one of the very first guitars of that genus that he ever built , and I took delivery of it in August 1979. So while this guitar is claimed to be a 1980, the info I just gave you would countermand that. EXCEPT for the fact that he had some single-body parts that needed using, hence your 1980 date. The neck width of that particular guitar is very narrow. That coupled with the early BMI's inherent rigidity, that guitar is probably one of the best steels ever made!! Zane told me that he discontinued the so-called 'cheap' student models because it only took a short time before people 'caught on'. I paid $1260 for my S-10 Custom in 1979. It is a neck and a half bodied guitar with padded armrest. That included the case. The guitar shown is definitely a 'student model' and went for around $400 in the case at that point in time. Suit yourself. In 1979 a dollar went a lot further than it does today. I used to peddle newspapers for the same amount per WEEK that I now pay for one gallon of Arab-borne gas TODAY!!! (????)
They were advertised as a student model, but they used all the same components that were used on the pro models. It'll last for 100 years!! What do your great-grandchildren really want you to buy?? I would offer $800 tops if I was bidding on this PSG. I haven't lived long enough yet to wear out my two BMI's yet. If I ever do, I'll notify your next of kin or their heirs.
PRR |
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Paul Redmond
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2007 12:11 am
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BTW - You had asked what sort of changer the BMI has in it. That particular changer is a ZANE BECK changer all the way. It is what I affectionately call a 'pry-bar' changer and rightfully so. One only needs to compare that with others to understand the implications. I'm surprised that others have not chosen to take heed. (????)
PRR |
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James Sission
From: Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2007 4:26 am
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That was some good information Paul. I appreaciate your post. I really like my BMI, but I understand they dont have a really good resale value. Most likey I would guess its because of the weight, because it plays good and sounds better to me than my GFI......James |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 6 Apr 2007 7:14 am
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David, that's really a great guitar but as others stated, the resale values not as good as some other guitars for reasons I can't understand. I've had my S-12 BMI for about 16 or 17 years now and although I could afford to, I'll never get another guitar as mine plays and sounds as well as anything else I could ever buy. It's built like a tank and very easy to work on or change copedants. I experiment with changes on a regular basis and it's easy to do on this guitar. The pedal action is tight and precise and nothing loose of "floppy" as some guitars I've played..........JH in Va. _________________ Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
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