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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2007 5:37 pm |
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| Anyone play this tuning? I've been messing around with this beautiful tuning again lately and just love the sound of it. I've got B11 on the middle neck of my Stringmaster T-8 and have tabs for Sand, Mapuana, Hana, and Nani Waimea but would love to find some more tabs for this beautiful tuning. Anybody know of some? |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Apr 2007 8:55 pm
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Funny, but; ‘SAND’ is the only tune I've been able to work out completely on the B11-Tuning! I agree that it's a pretty sounding tuning, but; I seem to spend most of my time on the C-Diatonic Tuning! It's hard for me to get involved with a tune, if I'm not even able to pronounce the title¡ My loss, I'm sure!
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 12:44 am
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Gerald, beautiful tune there. I'll have to try and figure out some of it. I had pretty good luck with your rendition of "Blue Lei" after you sent me the chords to it, another wonderful tune. I might have to take another look at the Jerry Byrd tabs available through Scotty's. Only problem though is not bein familiar with a lot of the songs available.
John, I know what you mean. Sand was my inspiration for wanting to learn some more B11 stuff and if I can get at least half a dozen or so B11 tunes then it'll justify keeping it on my middle neck. |
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 2:22 am
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Here's some B11th tab I did a long time ago. The formatting looks a bit weird but hope it helps ...
Here's a version of Jimmy Day's "Blue Wind" based on the recording by Buddy Emmon's on the Amazing Steel Guitar CD:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=44064&highlight=
THere's a snippet of it here:
link on Amazon.com
Nani Waimea:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=44063&highlight=
Here's some useful info from Alan Akaka:
"From Alan Akaka:
The B11th tuning possesses a richness that no other tuning has. If you don't mind doing forward bar slants then this tuning would have endless possibilities. For starters, you can strum full 9th and dominant 7th chords as well as 11th chords (if you strum all strings except for the 5th). There are of course the 6th and minor chords - both straight and 2 fret slants over strings 2-4. There's a straight bar augmented played one fret below the tonic using strings 2,3 and 5. The list goes on. Along with "Sand" and "How D'ya Do" try "Mapuana" and "Hanalei Moon". Search for songs that has a 9th chord in the melody. What about "Moonglow" in Bb (Ebmb9: try strumming strings 2 to 5 with the bar on the first fret for the top 2 strings and leaving the other strings open; C9th: strum strings 2 to 5 on fret 1; F7th: pick string 2 with the bar on the 1st fret and open strings 3 and 5 - have fun!!!). With the B11th let your imagination and creativity go wild." |
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Philip Bender
From:
Palmetto FL USA (deceased)
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 3:12 am b11
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Check with Scotty, he has all of JB tab which includes some good b11 tunes.
Aloha, Phil |
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Edward Meisse
From:
Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 9:24 am
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| Very nice recording, Mr. Ross. |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 12:58 pm
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| Andy, good info on the B11 tuning. I've heard some guys talk about how limiting the tuning was but it's just not true. I always thought there were more possiblities hidden within it's beauty and that info is an excellent guide. |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 3:13 pm JERRY BYRD's exciting "Steelin' the Chimes"....
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Here's a great tune that JERRY did in B11th.
Not to difficult to learn without tab!
Good Luck! |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 3:32 pm
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I learned "Sand" from Jerry's recordings using A6th. I never knew that he used a B11th on it until I read it on the Forum. 
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 3:37 pm JERRY BYRD's B11th
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b0b: I had never realized that JERRY BYRD ever changed his tunings.....I tho't it was totally unrealistic to even imagine JERRY doing such a thing.
So, for years, on my BIGSBY, I played "Steelin' the Chimes" on A6th and switched over to C6th for the Jerry Byrd sweet steel stuff; then, back to A6th for the remainder of the song.
I was dumbfounded when JERRY informed me, rather bluntly, that any "ANY #1 FAN of mine, should oughta know that I play that in B11th!" So, there you have it. It's a great tuning! |
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Mike Fried
From:
Nashville, TN, USA
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Kay Das
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 6:04 pm B11 is cool
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Andy,
The B11 tuning provides a great contrast with respect to the C6 and I have about 8-10 tracks recorded in HSGA, one of which is Acquamarina, an original composition, for which I was contemplating a darker sound.
http://www.hsga.org/membersrecordings/KayDas/Acquamarina.mp3
Any tune which has a chord structure built around dominant 7ths, major 7ths (or 9ths as "Sand"), or has no major-minor flavor(some country and m-o-r tunes), or has a chord structure which involves the root chord and root-chord minus two (e.g., "Old Devil Moon") should sit well on this great tuning.
Hope I have been clearer than mud. 
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 3 Apr 2007 2:18 am
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| Old Devil Moon! One of my all-time favorite tunes. I worked out the head in C6th then never got any further. Gotta try it in B11th. |
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Kay Das
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Drew Howard
From:
48854
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Posted 3 Apr 2007 11:25 am
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I've seen several versions of this tuning, with the low strings being different on each one. Herb Remington says he used B11 with an F on top (!) for some tunes to get an aug. chord. Gerald and anyone, can you give me the strings = notes?
thanks,
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2007 1:33 pm
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Drew, here's a few different versions that I've found. The top 6 of any variation work out nice on a six string lap. Also, as you can see the A6 tuning can be retuned to B11 very easily by retuning just a couple of strings
A6
1. - E
2. - C#
3. - A
4. - F#
5. - E
6. - C#
7. - A
8. - F#
B11
1 - E
2 - C#
3 - A
4 - F#
5 - D#
6 - C#
7 - A
8 - F#
B11
1 - E
2 - C#
3 - A
4 - F#
5 - D#
6 - B
7 - F#
8 - B
I use this one on the middle neck of my Fender T-8
B11
1 - E
2 - C#
3 - A
4 - F#
5 - D#
6 - B
7 - A
8 - F#
Kay, I really like "Old Devil Moon" you wouldn't happen to have a chord chart or know of some tab would ya? |
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Kay Das
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 3 Apr 2007 8:13 pm Old Devil Moon is no devil to play on B11!
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Hi Andy,
Sorry, I am no good at tabs. However, it will knock your socks off to know how easy this tune is to play on the B11 tuning. Here are some notes on how I play it:
* Key of F
* For the most part:
- Bar on 6th fret, strings 8-7-6-5 gives F chord
- Bar on 8th fret, strings 4-3-2-1 gives F chord
- Bar on 4th fret, strings 8-7-6-5 gives Eb chord
- Bar on 6th fret, strings 4-3-2-1 gives Eb chord
* You play 90% of the tune on these formations, you go up a fret maintaining the formation for parts of the bridge. With this structure, you will find the incidentals easily with reach. There are no slants and the harmonies often fall within adjacent string pairs.
* I have attached the chord sheet. I did not follow the chords exactly as on the chart, only used it to study the structure of the tune. I will e-mail the backing track to you (it is copyrighted). Let me know if you have any problems.
Good luck!
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Kay Das
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 3 Apr 2007 8:39 pm
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Oops, I meant:
- Bar on 6th fret, strings 8-7-6-5-4 gives F chord
- Bar on 8th fret, strings 3-2-1 gives F chord
- Bar on 4th fret, strings 8-7-6-5-4 gives Eb chord
- Bar on 6th fret, strings 3-2-1 gives Eb chord
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2007 12:31 am
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Kay, thanks for the chord charts and excellent notes on how to play "Old Devil Moon"
Mike, I've been workin on "Nauges" and with the help of some tab (can't remember who's) I'm gettin it down. |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2007 3:32 pm
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Kay, here's my email in case you didn't get my reply
loveridehd@aol.com |
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Todd Weger
From:
Safety Harbor, FLAUSA
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Posted 5 Apr 2007 7:19 am
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| b0b wrote: |
| I learned "Sand" from Jerry's recordings using A6th. I never knew that he used a B11th on it until I read it on the Forum. |
I play "Sand" in the key of D using the B11 tuning, but sometimes, when my steel is tuned to A6, I'll play it in that tuning, and use slants, if I'm just feeling too lazy to retune, or don't have the time to retune. However, it's definitely harder to do those slants on my 25" frypan down there on third and fourth frets.
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1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, E13, A6); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, B11/A6); Custom-made 25" aluminum cast "fry pan" with vintage Ricky p'up (C6); 1938 Epiphone Electar (A6); 1953 Oahu Tonemaster; assorted ukuleles; upright bass |
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