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Topic: Settings for 65 Twin Reverb Reissue |
Jeremy McCoy
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Washington, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 6:15 am |
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| Greetings. I'm hoping there are a few folks out there that are running their PSG's through a Fender 65 Twin Reverb Reissue that wouldn't mind snapping a photo of their settings and posting them. I recently purchased one of these amps and am having a difficult time getting a tone that i'm really happy with out of it. As i'm also a guitar player, I was hoping that this amp would allow me to only carry one amp to shows, but that hope is fading! Thanks. |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 7:43 am
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| For any Twin with 2x12, for pedal steel I start with: Bass 8, mid straight up (5.5), treble 3. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 8:39 am
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I use bass on 4,mids on 8,treble 7..Stu
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 5:12 pm
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If you recently bought it new, you need to play it for about 20-40 hours to get the speakers broken in before you'll have a good idea of the tone.
New amps are always biased cold - it really should be rebiased (and I'd dump the Groove Tube 6L6's and replace them with JJ's as well) a little warmer, although you lose some headroom. That can be overcome by replacing V2 (the second preamp tube - it powers the reverb/trem channel) with a 5751 or 12AY7.
All that being said, settings are completely based on your environment. The size of room, hard floors/carpet, seating configuration, amp sitting on a floor, stage, or stand, and especially volume level all drastically affect amp settings. There are no "guide" settings that are useful unless someone is playing the same guitar at the same volume in the same room. And the second you turn it up (or down) by a significant amount, you need to adjust things.
The other issue is that you almost always need some impedance matching device - Matchbox, Steeldriver, etc - between a modern steel and a tube amp. That device, on the other hand, will not work well with a guitar...in fact, setting an amp up for steel makes it pretty unusable for guitar, and visa-versa. They simply take a completely different approach in preamp tubes and bias settings.
Another important thing to be aware of is that unless you can run that Twin with the volume control at somewhere around 4-5 MINIMUM (I'm generalizing, but those are usually usable numbers) it will sound thin, because you simply are not driving the amp hard enough to get decent tone. A Twin on "2" is abysmal, unless you like upper mids and highs only.
But back to the beginning - if it's a new amp, you pretty much just have to live with it for a while until the speakers bloom. You'll know when they are starting to break in - the "tightness" will be gone and there will be much more harmonic content. You can still do the preamp tube swap and bias the power tubes, though - biasing power tubes hotter will help your guitar tone as well, but the preamp tube swap will lose you some gain...good for steel, bad for guitar. Win some, lose some...
Hope that helps a bit and wasn't totally confusing. The things about tube amps are 1) They don't sound their best right out of the box (Actually, all amps need speaker break-in time), and 2) They are almost NEVER "plug 'n play", and need some dialing-in before use.
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 2 Apr 2007 6:51 pm
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I use those reissue twins all the time.
My settings are always the same:
Vol around 3 or 4 depending
Brite: off
Treble: between 4 and 5
Mids: 10
Bass: around 4
Reverb: around 4 unless I notice it. Then I turn it down.
I use those same settings on my old showman that is my main recording amp. It gives me an even, flat sorta starting point that is the most responsive to my picking.
I end up using different rental and loaner reissue twins. Some new and some beat up and they all sound pretty good. Nice consistant amp. A little heavy though.
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