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Topic: Plain or wound 6th string E9 |
Allan Thompson
From:
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 5:10 am |
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| Would also like to know how many of you guys use the plain string because of the whole tone lower on the 6th, and if you did not use that change would you use a wound string. |
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 5:30 am
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| As much as I use the whole tone lower, I'd be unhappy without it, so the plain string is my only option, at least on the guitars I have. If I had a guitar that would make the lower with a wound string, I would certainly experiment to see which I prefer the sound of. |
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Allan Thompson
From:
Scotland.
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 5:42 am
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| Tried to list this as a poll but not sure how to do it. |
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Scott Swartz
From:
St. Louis, MO
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 7:04 am
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Wound here, better tone and stays in tune, but really you should try both and see which you like better
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 7:37 am
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I have a plain 6th string. I don't want the extra bar noise a wound string gives me.
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 9:25 am
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Wound sixth, full tone lower, even on steels that supposedly can't manage a full tone drop  |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 9:35 am
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I use a wound 6th because it sounds better to me. I've never had the full tone lower on that string. I raise my 7th string a full tone instead.
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 10:39 am
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| Wound sixth, full tone lower, even on steels that supposedly can't manage a full tone drop |
Richard,
What kinds of guitars (what kinds of changers) are you referring to, and do you do something special to make this possible? If so, what? If it's the guitar with the amazing number of springs that I recall seeing photos of, it might be hard for anyone else to achieve the same results!  |
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Brandon Ordoyne
From:
Needville,Texas USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 10:50 am
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non-Wound here
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 11:34 am
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Brint,
Most steel changers will raise the sixth string at least a full tone, in other words, if the player only wants to raise it a half-tone, then there is spare capacity in the changer.
I utilise this spare capacity to achieve a full tone lower.
It's a complicated mish-mash of springs and adjustable stops, here's some sketches:
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 11:42 am
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That's very clever, Richard!!  |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 23 Mar 2007 1:49 pm
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Richard is nothing if not clever.
Plain, full step lower.
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 24 Mar 2007 12:48 am
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For ZB tinkerers:
On my ZB, I achieved a full tone drop by a different method:
I realised that the changer was capable of dropping a wound sixth a full tone, as long as the tuning nut (at the endplate) was removed.
This allowed the finger extra 'wiggle' room, as it was no longer fouling in the hole in the endplate.
Of course, this meant that I couldn't tune the drop at the endplate, so I put an adjustable stop on the knee lever that drops the sixth |
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Mike Taylor
From:
Wetumpka, AL
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Posted 24 Mar 2007 1:04 am
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Plain on a Sho Bud Pro II.. Tried a wound but couldn't get it to stay in tune..
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 24 Mar 2007 2:59 am
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Richard, got a solution for an MSA?
(A wound string would sure help with the drop on 6.)
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 28 Mar 2007 1:25 pm
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| I don't about Richard, but I found the old MSA's would do just about any lower you wanted if you used a lighter return spring. After finding the right size return spring, my old Classic would do a 3rd string lower from G# to E, and that was with an .010 guage! |
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Les Green
From:
Jefferson City, MO, R.I.P.
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Posted 29 Mar 2007 4:05 pm
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73 MSA, plain, full tone lower.
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