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Andy DePaule


From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2007 4:54 pm    
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Getting a new PSG after ten years without.
Anybody have information on a good volume pedal to get?
Any used ones for sale?
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Andy
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Ben Jones


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Seattle, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2007 5:21 pm    
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for whatever its worth I bought a goodrich and the pot went bad in a couple weeks.
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Calvin Walley


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colorado city colorado, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2007 6:18 pm    
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get rid of the pot troubles once and for all :
get a Hilton...you will never regret it
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Andy DePaule


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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2007 8:50 pm    
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Thanks for the info...
I looked up the Hilton. Expensive but looks like it has some very good adjustments.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2007 9:15 pm    
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I've never worn out the pot in a pedal. Maybe I don't pump it enough!

FWIW, I'm using a Williams volume pedal to match my Williams steel. It's smaller than most.
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Mike Shefrin

 

Post  Posted 6 Jan 2007 9:32 pm    
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I'm currently using an old shobud volume pedal. I love it but it's
not for everyone. I also have a Goodrich 120 which is excellent.
Alot of folks swear by the Hilton pedal but I didn't care for it.
You'll just have to try em for yourself and decide which you prefer. I've never had any pot problems either. I gave it up years ago! Cool
Greg Cutshaw


From:
Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2007 9:49 pm    
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There's POT in my pedal? Shocked

I love the sound of my pot pedal. Uncle Doug was over today and I tried the LDR2 electronic and the 120 pot pedal out. I still get crystal clear sound and the most interesting tone color out of the Goodrich 120 on both my MSA Legend and Doug's Carter Starter. Goodrich certainly should upgrade the quality of the pots they are using. I get about 10 years on average out of a pot and the new one I got from Tom Bradshaw is doing fine after a few months of use. It's a side benefit that there's no power supply to drag along and plug in.

I vote for buying a used Goodrich 120 or L120 and putting one of Tom Bradshaw's pots in it!

Greg
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Bo Borland


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South Jersey -
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2007 5:35 am    
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I just replaced the pot in my original MSA pedal....it took 30 years to wear it out.. not bad
I have had a Goodrich as a back up for years and never had to use it.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2007 7:17 am    
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I bit the bullet at Christmas time and bought a Hilton. The pot on my Goodrich was getting noisy and it gave me a good excuse. I'm really enjoying the Hilton! Very Happy
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Michael Haselman


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St. Paul
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2007 8:37 am    
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Get the Hilton if your ear needs to hear the high end sparkle, like mine does. You'll never go back.
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Fred Justice


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Mesa, Arizona
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2007 9:05 am     Hilton Pedal
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Andy I have some good deals on Hilton Pedals on my website, check them out if you will, thanks
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Roger Francis

 

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kokomo,Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2007 9:57 am    
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Try plugging your guitar straight to your amp (no pedal) dial in a tone you like, and thats what you will have with a Hiton pedal.It won't change the tone of your amp.
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Doug Seymour


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Jamestown NY USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2007 2:47 pm    
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Opinion.....after hearing Greg work out that Carter Starter......he's an unbelievably great player!....I believe a picker could use it to gig with until he paid for it and then save up enough to buy any steel he wanted! Bud & John have really given the steel comunity something to play on! learn on! It's all there! I've owned a bunch of different steels......save your money and play what you have!
The Starter is what I recomended to my guitar playing son in LA over another (probably better beginner) steel just for the fact that it already had all the knees he'd ever need (or want!) The other steel only had 2 knees. I thought having the four knees was a big plus!
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Scott Shipley


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The Ozark Mountains
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2007 4:12 pm    
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Andy, I have a Boss FV-50 stereo/mono volume pedal you can have for $50 shipped if you want it. It's no Hilton, but it would get you started until you could decide which direction you want to go.
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Ben Jones


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Seattle, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2007 11:10 am    
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I've never worn out the pot in a pedal. Maybe I don't pump it enough!


-I'll admit I'm not a pro and my volume pedal work needs some help, but Ive heard others say they got bad pots right outta the box and others say there pedals pot lasted only a few hours. A volume pedal is a potentiometer and a housing...thats it! I fail to see why:
1. they should cost $140
2. why they cant install a potentiometer that lasts more than a few hours.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2007 11:32 am     I prefer pot.
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Very Happy

I like the sound of a pot pedal. The tone changes slightly as you increase the volume with a pot pedal. You get more high frequencies as the signal gets louder. I like that effect.

Some people want a consistant tone throughout the pedal travel. You need a pedal with active electronics (like the Hilton or the Goodrick LDR) to get that. I used an active pedal for a long time, but switched back to get a more "true to roots" sound.
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Tom Mossburg


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AZ,
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2007 11:42 am    
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I agree with Ben. All the pot pedals consist of is a housing and a pot with some nylon cord. They shouldn't cost as much as they do. If they're machined aluminum I can see some of the cost being justified. I bought a pedal from MSA when I bought a guitar back in 1978. I replaced the pot once. Even though I didn't use it for awhile, I think that's not bad. If you're going to replace a pot make sure it's an Allen Bradley though. Last year I needed another pedal quickly so I bought an inexpensive Morley "Green Gator" or whatever they call it from GC for about $60. Its a potless unit and the battery lasts for a long time. It's also low profile though wider than I like. I found that I liked it a lot and am using it with my steel almost all the time. A very economical alternative.
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2007 11:57 am    
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Ben and Tom,
If I understand you guys correctly, you have found a source for the old Allen Bradley Type J pots. That is great news! I will take 100 of them. Let me know your price in email.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2007 12:17 pm    
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The new Allen Bradley pots are absolute junk. They sold out to another company who now also makes junk. This has been covered many times here in the forum. The new Dunlop pots that Tom Bradshaw and others sell, have a carbon impregnated plastic material in them that is absolutely quiet and good for millions of cycles.


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Greg
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Tom Mossburg


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2007 1:29 pm    
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Earnest I didn't say or imply I had a source for them but I'll gladly sell you a hundred or as many as you want as long as you prepay and send me an old amp box full of cash. I bought a couple when I found them at an electronics salvage yard here in Phoenix, so yes they do exist but they are hard to find. So I guess I phrased the post wrong and should have said that if you need to replace a pot, get the best quality you can find LIKE the old Allen Bradley pots or a pot of that quality. It's unfortunate that some of the companies whose products you grew to trust have sold out and quality diminished. I have to agree strongly with bOb's reply as far as the pot pedal, use whatever you like for whatever you like to play. If you can find an alternative you like such as the Morley I found, there's no need to spend a couple hundred bucks more if it does the job for you. Greg, thanks for your participation on the forum.
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