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Twayn Williams
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Portland, OR
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Posted 5 Jan 2007 9:30 pm |
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Anyone know how to tune the 6th string B+RKL split on a GFI Ultra???? Thanks!
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2007 11:17 pm
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| Twayn, I have a GFI, and I don't believe any of them have "tunable splits". You'll have to experiment with changing the pullrod of the F# lower to different holes in the changer and/or puller. |
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 5 Jan 2007 11:38 pm
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If you have a spare hole in the raise segment of the sixth string changer finger, you can fit an extra rod (from the knee lever that lowers the sixth), which is adjusted as follows:
Set the B pedal (sixth string raise 1/2 tone) in usual way.
Press B pedal, and operate the knee lever that lowers the sixth.
Tune the string to the split note (G) using the nylon tuner on the lower segment.
Release pedal and lever.
Operate knee lever to lower the sixth.
You will probably find that it is flat of F#
To bring it up to F#, adjust the nylon tuner on the new rod. |
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2007 11:48 pm
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| Richard, I stand corrected. I was actually hoping someone would post an explanation of this method for achieving tunable splits, as I've never quite understood it! |
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Bill Tauson
From:
Chino Valley, Az.
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Posted 6 Jan 2007 10:31 am split tuning
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I have a GFI and they don't have split tuning. You can put it on the same knee lever as another sting that has a similar pull that you want. It's confusing!
My 6th string drops a 1/2 step from G# to G. Then my first string starts to raise up a 1/2 step as the G drops the other 1/2 step. It's a bit of work to keep accurate.
Hope that makes sense. Perhaps someone else has a better idea.
If your still confused, email me and I'll try and explain it better. |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 7 Jan 2007 3:14 am
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Bill,
I was talking about split-tuning, not a half-stop.
It's been quite a while since I had an all-pull steel capable of split-tuning with an extra rod, and I'm not 100 % certain that my explanation of setting it up is correct.
I do remember setting the 9th string lower (on my Carter) to coincide exactly with the 2nd string half-tone drop, (to act as a half-stop) and using an extra rod on the 9th to accurately tune it from D to C# |
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Twayn Williams
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 7 Jan 2007 3:16 pm
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Seems to be some confusion on this topic, so I'm going to go straight to the horse's mouth and write to Bob at GFI. I'll post back with the answer when I get it.
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 7 Jan 2007 3:47 pm
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I think Richard got it right. Go to Mark Van Allen's web site and he has a good illustration of what Richard is talking about.
Click Here
I've got this set-up on my Mullen and it works very well.
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2007 5:08 pm
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What Richard said is exactly correct, and exactly how Bob described it to me. I set up 4 of them on my Ultra for my B6 "Sneaky" copedent, and after some initial twiddling and fine adjustments, they are dead-on.
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Twayn Williams
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 8 Jan 2007 6:54 pm
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Jim, 4 additional rods and nylon tuners, right?
Lee, thanks for the link, I've bookmarked it.
Richard, sounds easy with the extra parts! Guess I'll find out when I get 'em!
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 8 Jan 2007 8:28 pm
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Twayn-Quite a few of the new guitars have a built-in split tuning capabilities on all strings.
Emmons,MSA Millenium,Excel,Anapeg,Excel, and I think Williams are some..
I don't know why the other builders don't make it standard, probably costs involved to keep the price down.
Some guitars will put a few of the standard splits on the guitar for you, when you order them new. But if a player wanted any later, he would have to send it back to the factory or do it himself....al
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2007 6:04 am
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Twayn - eactly. If you want specific details or a copy of the installation stuff I got from Bob at GFI, shoot me an email. I had a few problems initially, but that was due to simple inexperience with rodded guitars - once I got the idea down it was a breeze.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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