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Dave Ledbetter
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Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 2:36 pm |
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I was just at Gilley's in Dallas and it was the first time I've ever been to a Honky Tonk that didn't allow smoking.
I'd like to hear some opinions......... [This message was edited by Dave Ledbetter on 20 November 2006 at 02:40 PM.] |
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 3:08 pm
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| there was a thread on this a while back...it didnt go very well as i recall. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 3:09 pm
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| Not a "Pedal Steel" topic. We often run surveys in "Steel Players", so I've moved it to there. |
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Gerry Hogan
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Burghclere, Hampshire, England
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 3:54 pm
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I have never smoked, nor have I ever had a cigarette to my lips, my entire life. I have tolerated smokers because I needed to gig, and gigs over here have needed smokers. That is: until Ireland banned smoking in public places, and then Scotland followed suit, and then Sweden ... 
What a joy it is to play gigs in these countries now! England, the country in which I reside, hasn't yet banned smoking in all public places, but that's coming next year (apparently!).
It is awful, for singers in particular, to have to inhale the fug of smoke which typifies the usual gig - poor Albert Lee struggles some nights, but he's so nice that he doesn't complain very much. It's the next day, when his voice is really croaky at breakfast that it's obvious that he has suffered. (To be totally fair, I have to add that at some gigs, the organisers and audiences are considerate, and don't smoke during the performance, particularly in the front rows).
I think that smokers should be more considerate to those people who don't indulge.
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Colby Tipton
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Crosby, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 4:30 pm
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b0b,
I don't know why you moved it to steel players, it has nothing to do with playing steel guitar. If they smoke at one place and don't smoke at the next, What is is to do with steel players or steel guitar at all? It has nothing to do with the Forum at all, just my 2 cents worth. That is like someone that has a deal about Poka, so I guess we could move that to ? Sometimes I think people worry about the most astinine things. Did I spell astinine correct. Maybe we should have a WHINE area. Don't take me wrong, but sometime people get on the stupidist stuff. |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 4:38 pm
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I too have never smoked in my life. Last night I got home from a gig at a private club my band has been playing for a few months. Did the usual routine: bring in the guitars and amp but leave the gig bag open on the porch; throw the cases out on the porch after removing the guitars; shower thoroughly; throw clothes out on porch for the night. With all that, I still had the smell of cigarette smoke in my nose all night and woke up with a scratchy throat (which I might have gotten from driving home on the highway at 30 degrees with windows open to keep the smell from permeating the car).
My wife asked me this morning how I can stand it. I told her I must reeeeealy love the music and the steel! And I do. Still, I wish we had smokeless bars in New Hampshire! (Gotta get some gigs in mass where they do.)
Dan
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Big Red
Blue TrainDurham, NH
[This message was edited by Dan Beller-McKenna on 20 November 2006 at 04:41 PM.] [This message was edited by Dan Beller-McKenna on 20 November 2006 at 04:43 PM.] |
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Duane Becker
From:
Elk,Wa 99009 USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 4:40 pm
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Up until about 10 years ago if you were a steel player or player of any instrument for that matter and you wanted to gig in and around the Pacific Northwest, then you had to put up with smoking. Most all the steel players I knew back then smoked too.
Washington State went smoke-less last year, and I love it. I still gig with my steel and still love it. After almost 40 years of playing, mostly in bars, I have died several times I sure from breathin' the smoke. Sure is nice now to go into a bar and not breath smoke. |
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Colby Tipton
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Crosby, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 4:44 pm
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| Let me ask, How many of you have a fire place in your home? Is that not smoke? |
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Mark Eaton
From:
Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 5:05 pm
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For pete's sake Colby-can't you come up with something better than that?
It's been a number of years now since smoking was banned in public places in California and very few folks ever comment about it, one way or another. It's water WAY under the bridge and many miles downstream now.
On the day the law took effect, I thought it was one of the great days in the history of the state.
Limbaugh was trying to compare the ban to stuff like taking away the right to bear arms and you could almost see him waving a "Don't Tread On Me Flag" through the radio speakers. Just ridiculous.
I probably smoked about one pack of cigarettes in my life one summer-as a middle school kid taking a shot at being cool. The sore throats and the hacking coughs made a light bulb go on above my head: "Gee, if I have to go through this to get to a point to where I can come out the other side and actually ENJOY these things-then apparently my body is telling me it's not a good idea!"
For anyone that wants to smoke, be my guest, but take it outside please.
The correct spelling is: asinine
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Dave Ledbetter
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Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 5:10 pm
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Sure do. But the smoke isn't coming out of someones mouth, nose and lungs.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 5:42 pm
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Well, some steel players work in smoke-filled bars. It would be irrelevant, I suppose, if the working conditions weren't killing some of us.
I'm keeping an eye on this topic. Let's keep it civil.
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 5:48 pm
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| Canada is all non-smoking in public places now as well. I enjoy a smoke or two between sets, so I simply stroll outside. I am conscious of my smoke affecting other people, and I try to stay clear of non-smokers if I'm having a smoke somewhere. I smoke about 5-6 cigarettes a day, but I really want to quit. It's an insidious habit. |
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Alan Brookes
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Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 5:51 pm
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Smoking is a disgusting habit. Drinking and taking drugs hurt the user, but smoking hurts everyone. I've never smoked: it's such an irrational thing to do: I don't see why I should have to inhale anyone else's smoke.
When I see someone smoking I look at them as being cancer terrorists. They don't give a damn about who they poison. Why should we give a damn about them ?
Hang 'em. Hang 'em all. Who's got a rope ? |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 6:15 pm
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Uh......Bob.......
I think it just got a little teency weency bit uncivil. I'd say I'll look back to see who's standing when the smoke clears but ...
Oh well...
Dan
[This message was edited by Dan Beller-McKenna on 20 November 2006 at 06:16 PM.] |
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Bob Knight
From:
Bowling Green KY
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 6:33 pm
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WOW! That is the most rediculous statement I have ever seen.
No, I am not saying that anyone should have to be exposed to cigarette smoke if they choose not to be.
BUT, think about all the families that have been broken, deaths due to DUI, murders, and violent crimes as results of alcohol and drug abuse. The victims have little control over it. Drug and Alcohol abuse is probably the largest domestic problem in The USA.
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 6:35 pm
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| Not worth the conflict......... [This message was edited by Chris LeDrew on 21 November 2006 at 12:40 AM.] |
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Mark Edwards
From:
Weatherford,Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 7:06 pm
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| Alan - Have a smoke it will calm you down. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 7:09 pm
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| Mind if I fart? |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 7:20 pm
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Nicotine, what the legal beagles call "harmful but legal". Makes great bug killer.
Nicotine generates a dopamine release. It's actually the dopamine that one becomes addicted to. Hits the pleasure center of brain.
Now if only I could find a surrogate or replacement feely goody thing.........[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 20 November 2006 at 07:23 PM.] |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 7:29 pm
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Ray writes:
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| Now if only I could find a surrogate or replacement feely goody thing......... |
That would be playing the pedal steel.
Dan
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 7:29 pm
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We've had a full smoking ban in all clubs, pubs, bars and restaurants for about 2 years now .....best thing they ever did !!!! (and most all workplaces as well)
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Aled Rhys Jones
From:
Berkeley, CA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 7:31 pm
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'Cancer terrorist'? C'mon now.
I'm also afflicted with a 5 a day habit, but don't mind stepping outside of a bar mid-set. A non-smoking atmosphere is far more pleasant, even for an evil smoker. Alcohol and tobacco are two drugs that do nothing for you, but hey, they're both taxed and legal to consume in the appropriate places.[This message was edited by Aled Rhys Jones on 20 November 2006 at 07:32 PM.] |
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JamesMCross
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 8:06 pm
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I quit in 1986, just before my first daughter was born. I'd been smoking 2 packs a day for 10 years, since high school.
Now I go outside for a breather on breaks to get away from the smoke... It hurts my eyes, makes everything smell gnarly, and usually gets me stuck sleeping on the couch when I get home from a gig.
I don't mind the other guys lighting up when they do, and I don't hold it against the audience either. They're keeping us working, after all, and I could always stay home if I want to get away from it.
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Greg Simmons
From:
where the buffalo (used to) roam AND the Mojave
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Posted 20 Nov 2006 8:17 pm
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Does an occasional Upmann Corona Junior count? 
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