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Topic: Best course for C6th ? |
Ed Altrichter
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Schroeder, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2006 7:30 am |
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| What is the best video course for learning C6th on pedal steel ? Also, what is the difference between E9th and C6th ? What does one do that the other doesn't ? |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 2 Nov 2006 7:59 am
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| . [This message was edited by Roger Rettig on 02 November 2006 at 08:07 AM.] |
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Ed Altrichter
From:
Schroeder, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2006 5:49 pm
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2006 6:45 pm
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| Pedals down E9th = A6th and you'll find the voicings to be similar to the C6th tuning especially when "raking" the lower strings. However, C6th tuning lends itself more nicely to extended and altered chords commonly used in jazz and swing due to the pedal changes and extended bass range commonly found on guitars with C6th tuning. Herb Steiner has some great courses "Swinging on E9th" that demonstrate the use of the E9th neck to play songs traditionally played on C6th. Fred Justice and Randy Beavers are two more players that I am familiar with that get wonderful C6th sounds on the E9th neck. Jeffran Music also has some very good basic courses for C6th- he was a master teacher and his loss has left a huge hole in the teaching arena. [This message was edited by Jim Palenscar on 02 November 2006 at 06:49 PM.] |
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A. J. Schobert
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 2 Nov 2006 7:06 pm
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| Ed if a video is what you are after I got jeff newmans and it is good, I really like billy coopers course on c6th if you are starting it is good (it is a cd course), really all of billys courses are good. The difference between the e9th and c6th is that one is closer to you while the other is not, What does one do that the other doesn't? one will give headaches and the other won't(as often.) good luck! |
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Ed Altrichter
From:
Schroeder, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2006 10:52 pm
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I'm thinking about learning something about the use of pedals; I don't know how serious it will be, yet.
For a little back-ground : I've been playing Dobro in the Brother Oswald style for years. Then last year I bought a 7-string SuperSlide lap steel from Reece Anderson and started playing in C6th
tuning, CEGACEG. I love this SuperSlide ! I like the old country songs, mostly; Hank Williams, George Morgan, Carl Smith, etc. and I play some Western Swing, such as Faded Love, Steel Guitar Rag, San Antonio Rose, and so forth, and a little blues. And Christmas songs, of course. I can rattle them off pretty fast too, one right after another, for hours. I play just the main melody, no turn-arounds, intros etc., because I only play for my own enjoyment at home. I'm retired and do not ever intend to "play out".
But recently I happened to notice that the first seven strings of a C6th PEDAL steel have the same tuning as I use on my slide, and it has me curious.
A friend has offered to let me borrow his SD pedal steel to experiment on to see how the pedals work,and I'd like to know the best instruction course to start with.
I'd also like to know why some people favor either the E9th tuning or C 6th. I'm really only interested in playing in C 6th however, because that's what my lap steel has. Is it common to only have C6th tuning on a single neck pedal steel ?
Any other info will be appreciated.
Thanks. Ed |
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A. J. Schobert
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Posted 3 Nov 2006 5:06 am
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| Ed I have a chromatic d as my first string as do alot of players, I would say a single neck c6th is not common but I'm sure someone can help you as with anything it only cost's money! If you are retired why not learn e9th as well? just about all of todays country music is played on it, and western swing is mostly played on c6th.As much as it would cost to have a custom single neck c6th I would think you could get a nice used d10. Good Luck!!CARTER D10 |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 3 Nov 2006 5:37 am
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Got me a D-10 last Christmas. I've just recently figured out how to hit B&C without looking... Now it's gonna be P4 thru P8? Just gotta spend the hours at it...  [This message was edited by Ray Minich on 03 November 2006 at 05:38 AM.] |
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 3 Nov 2006 7:30 am
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| I believe that Al Vescovo uses a single neck 14 string extended C6 tuning (is this right?). I think he can play anything he wants on it. |
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 3 Nov 2006 7:54 am
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| I think Doug Seymour (Bobbe's uncle) plays primarily C6,,,and he's a great guy too,,,maybe he could chime in and give some insight,,?? |
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Bill Stafford
From:
Gulfport,Ms. USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2006 8:48 am
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Check out the material Herby Wallace has. It is some of the very best for the C6 tuning.
He has many great songs in the best arrangements also.
Bill Stafford |
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Ron Sodos
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2006 9:02 am
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| I have worked with alot of Herby Wallace's tab. I also work with Bobbe Seymour's Istant C6th video. the best is of course Jeff Newman's C6th Workshop and C6th and Swnging Parts 1 and 2. Tab is good to work with but Jeff's stuff allows you to understand the neck so you can figure stuff out for yourself. In my opinion thats the best way to go. I have been using it now for about a year and finally able to jam a little on C6th. Good luck. |
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Roger Shackelton
From:
MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 3 Nov 2006 9:04 am
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Perhaps a S-12U (E-9th/B-6th) might be the way to go.
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