? Buck Owens Carnegie Hall

Marco Schouten · From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

I bought this life-album 2 weeks ago. Did Tom Brumley play a ZB guitar on this one?

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Bob Hempker · From: Goodlettsville, TN.

Absolutely!!!!

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Dave Van Allen · From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth

what an amazing document of a performance... the Buckaroos were such an incredibly tight band, all the while cutting up in their scripted way!!
Brumley and Rich kicked serious behind that night....

C Dixon · From: Duluth, GA USA

Outside the ET band featuring Leon Rhodes and buddy Charleton, The Buckaroos band that played on that album is the best ever been in my opinion. It just doesn't get any better than these too incredible bands.

When you have talents like Don Rich, Leon Rhodes, Buddy Charleton and Tom Brumley, you have some unbelievable music emanation from these geniuses.

We may never see another band like those were. Sad indeed.

carl

Bob Mainwaring · From: Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada

That goes for me too Carl.
I still have quite a collection of L.Ps. and I must admit - this is one of my favourite bands around that time - pure magic!!
I liked all the numbers that Buck ever did/does and has a special place in my heart that goes along with those fabulous days of "Real Country"

Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things.

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B. Greg Jones · From: Middleport, Ohio USA

What a great album!! According to Tom, he told me he used his black D-11 ZB through a Fender Twin Reverb w/JBL D-120's. Fantastic sound!!!

Greg

GaryHoetker · From: Bakersfield, CA, USA

Personally, other than on Together Again, I didn't like the tone from the ZB on that particular album especially on the up tempo tunes. For whatever reason, the steel usually sounds different in live recordings than in the studio. That's not to diminish Brumley's greatness. The best steel I've heard on a live recording is Porter Wagoner In Person LP (1964) and Charley Pride Live at Panther Hall LP-about 1969.

Joe Casey · From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)

Thanks too the Smiley man from Nashburg I now have a almost new album(record) of the carnagie hall show and I don't think any band now or to come could be as good as this Buckaroo contingent was. O and Also Smiles thank you for the Ray Price Night Life Album.Talk about classic at it's best.

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Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

And to think...they did it all without "crunched" guitars, plastic keyboards, and without miking every single item in the drummer's kit!

Man, they must'a been geniuses (or purists).

Jason Odd · From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia

Naw, they was a hot sh!t band and that's about it.. hee hee.

Great sound, definately different from the albums, but what Ken did in the studio was make perfect radio tracks, sensational.
You know REd Simpson was on the same gig and the Buckaroos backed him, do you think that those tapes will ever surface, I hope so.

BobRob · Posted 25 Aug 2001 7:25 pm

Jason,

Do you know when the Buckaroos or at least
Don Rich(unless he had a guitar playing twin)
backed up Johnny Paycheck? I have the "Real
Mr. Heartache" CD and it has an inset picture
on one of the pages with a guitar player over Johnny's left shoulder that looks exactly like Don. I thought they (the Buckaroos) might have have backed him at
Carnegie Hall. I believe he was there too.
The guitar player is wearing a jacket with the "cowhide look" like the one the band is wearing on the cover of the "On the Bandstand" CD.

Thanks,

BobRob

Jason Odd · From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia

Bob Rob, in regards to the "Real Mr. Heartache" CD, I haven't yet obtained a copy, although I do intend to one of these days, are the sleeve notes any good?
While the Little Darlin' label was at it's peak (1966-1967), I assumed it was all Nashville recordings, I don't know much about the session crew used, just that Paycheck seemed to have a strong attraction to blending West Coast with George Jones and Porter Wagoner's stronger honky-tonk side.
At least from what I've heard.
I assume that Lloyd Green was the steel player, as he recorded solo material for the label, perhaps a certain Forumite who recorded for Little Darlin' could help us out here, if he sees this topic?

If indeed it is Don Rich with Paycheck, where was the picture taken. For one thing, Johnny may have appeared on Buck's TV show where the Buckaroos backed the acts (this is the one filmed in OK, before Hee Haw).
and it has an inset picture

Paycheck also has an album with the Carnige Hall in the title, but if memory serves me correct, it's actually a studio set and the title is rather tongue in cheek.
I have come up rather dry on Paycheck's career in the 1960s, although I'm sure more than a few Forumites here have a story about his time in California in the late 1960s when Little Darlin' went under and he went through a period without a record deal and played the CA honky-tonks... Herb, Jim Bob, Jerry Hayes, any stories?

Sorry I can't give you anything definite either way, regards
Jason

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

Paycheck started as a bassman in the late '50s with such acts as Porter, Faron, Jones, and Price. After his first record ('65, I believe) his career took off, and by late '66 he was in the top-40 with "A-11". Shortly after, his "Apt. No. 9" was a smash for Tammy. The Little Darlin' label (which was started by Johnny and Aubrey Mayhew) only lasted a short time. Johnny was touring with Jones, and had some "problems"...so he was dropped from the tour, and Aubrey dropped him as well. From '67-'70, Johnny did little, other than some club work and a few personal appearances. But in 1970, veteran producer Bill Sherril tapped him for some collaborations that produced some hits in the early '70s. But by '76, Johnny's problems returned...they didn't last as long this time, and his "Only Hell My Mama Raised" was followed up by "Take this Job And Shove It" in '78.

Things were up and down for awhile, and his "outlaw image" finally caught up with him in '86...when he was convicted of a shooting in an Ohio bar. Since then, he's had trouble outrunning that outlaw image. His "Jukebox Charlie" album still ranks as one of the best Honky-Tonk albums ever made though, IMHO. If you're into the Bakersfield sound, and early Lloyd Green, it's a must-have.

[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 26 August 2001 at 06:47 PM.]

Gary Walker · From: Morro Bay, CA

Johnny Paycheck played bass for Faron Young on a tour and I saw the band in Porterville CA in November of 59 and he was introduced as Donnie and I believe last name was Young.

BobRob · Posted 26 Aug 2001 7:22 pm

Gary,

Yes, The liner notes say he used the name Donnie Young to make to few recordings that
didn't do much before he took the name Johnny
Paycheck(from a Chicago wrestler, I think).

Jason,

I'll email you some jpegs from the notes. They are pretty informative. They were written by Daniel Cooper of the Country Music Foundation. The notes say that
Johnny was in Las Vegas at the same time as
Wynn Stewart and also worked the Nevada Club. He befriended Merle and Bobby Austin
there. These notes are from the 1996 CD. I believe they have recently reissued the CD and I'm not sure they have the same notes.

BobRob

John Paul Jones · From: San Diego

There was a Chicago mobster named "Johnny Paycheck". Maybe that's where Donny Young got the name.

But, I was told that "Donny Young" wasn't even his real name. Anybody know what it is?
(I heard but can't remember).

John Paul Jones

Smiley Roberts · From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

Donald Lytle.

C.J.C
Ya mean I actually gave you those albums??
Boy,I musta been outta my mind that day!!

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Greg Simmons · From: where the buffalo (used to) roam AND the Mojave

Donald Eugene Lytle - courtesy the Rough Guide to Country Music: no pun intended

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Neil Hilton · From: Lexington, Kentucky

There is a recording of "Apartment #9" cut by Bobby Austin on a compilation cd of old Bakersfield stuff I have. It was recorded in that early 60s time when all those guys were hanging out in Vegas - super cut of that song, better than Tammy's version in my opinion.

Jason Odd · From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia

As I see it, Bobby Austin wrote most of the song and Paycheck got most of the credit over the years. Some versions have different credits for the writers, and I must admit I prefer Bobby Austin's version and I'm a big fan of early Tammy.

In regards to Paycheck:
Back in his Donny Young days he did record some fairly rocking sides, he recorded on and off throughout the early 1960s, quite unsuccessfully until the A-11 days previously mentioned.

Pat Kelly · From: Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia

Carl, this topic came up in discussion again the other day. Someone said "Buck, what a great singer?" The response was "Yes, but he had the best band in the world."

Joe Casey · From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)

Smiley if you remember I came home with a handful of LP records including paychecks Lil darlin sessions about 6-8 of B.O. 4-5 of RPs I scored and have since made CDs of all. Seems like BV had copies of those that were in great shape if I remember right.I'm looking forward to another score in sept.

Barry Blackwood · Posted 29 Jul 2006 6:12 am

Buck's Carnegie Hall album was the best they all ever sounded, IMHO. They were at the very top of their game, and playing probably the most prestigious gig they would ever do ...

Gary Spaeth · From: Wisconsin, USA

recorded 3/?/66. anyone know the date.

John Billings · From: Ohio, USA

This looks interesting. Some good clips. Check out LG on Apt.#9.
"The Real Mr. Heartache: The Little Darlin' Years." http://tinyurl.com/l73c2
Not cheap, though!

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