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Sonny Jenkins


From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 10:40 am    
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Would any (many?) universal players like to compile a central data base list of players to share info with. If uni players will email me I'll create a group list and send it to everyone,,,,
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David Doggett


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Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 5:12 pm    
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Seems like we can share info here on the Forum. How would this list be different? You can take my e-mail from my Forum information.

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Student of the Steel: Zum uni, Fender tube amps, squareneck and roundneck resos, tenor sax, keyboards

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Bill Stroud

 

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Dresden, Tennessee, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2006 7:28 pm    
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I play the 12 String Universal, also double Ten, and double twelve.
I play the Universal a lot.
Bill
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Micky Byrne


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United Kingdom (deceased)
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 5:30 am    
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Hi Sonny, took up pedal steel in 1970, was always on a S10, I could never afford a D10.In 1977 I got an extended E9th S12, then changed it over to a full universal a few years later. Been on a universal since 1983

Micky Byrne, Carter universal and soon to be once again my Sho-Bud universal which is being "ressurected" after a serious house fire. http://mickybyrne.50webs.com/index.html
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Scott Henderson


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Camdenton, Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 6:08 am    
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I played nothing but Uni from 1982 to 93 now I play both uni and double ten.

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Michael Brewer

 

From:
Carrollton, Texas
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 6:54 am    
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Sonny,

I have been playing a Bflat 6th univeral since 1976. Received my new Excel Superb just before Christmas 2005.

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Mike Brewer


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John De Maille


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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 10:38 am    
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I started playing a U-12, in 2003, when I got my new Zum. I had been playing an S-11, (extended low octave E for the 11th string) for 27 years, tuned to E-9th. I can honestly say that, I love the U-12. There is so much to play with, on one neck. I've learned to think of it as one big tuning and not two distinct tunings. It suits me, just fine.
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 10:45 am    
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I also play a universal. I started off on one back in '79
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Mike Ester


From:
New Braunfels, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 11:27 am    
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Hey, Sonny.

As of October of last year, I'm now a Uni player.
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John Sluszny

 

From:
Brussels, Belgium
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 12:01 pm    
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Carter S-12 Universal 8&5 since 2002.Just love it!
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 12:31 pm    
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I got my first S-12 in 1977 (ShoBud). I'd had a Fender 400, 1000, and a Blanton S-10 which Blackie Taylor converted to an eleven string before that. When I got my S-12 I played extended E-9 for a while until I could afford to add enough pedals for a Universal and played the U-12 from '78 or '79 until sometime in 2002 when I went to a different type of Universal which is basically an extended E9 with a C# on strings 2 and 9. I still have all the regular universal pedals plus some other stuff......JH in Va.

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Jon Jaffe


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Austin, Texas
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 12:45 pm    
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Mike P, '79 was a good year. That is when I went to the Universal as well.
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David Doggett


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Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 7:57 pm    
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Oh, you want true confessions. Okay. I played country and country-rock on a Maverick S10 for a few years back in the '70s. Quit music for over 20 years. A couple years ago I drug the Maverick out from under the bed and started playing again. I wanted more strings on the bottom for blues, rock, and classical. I got an S12 extended E9 Emmons push/pull. The grips on the bottom got too complicated - I couldn't stand it. Then I got a Fessenden S12 universal. It was love at first pick. The complexity on the bottom was cleared up. Other types of music really opened up for me on steel, yet all the traditional country E9 stuff was still there. The lagniappe is all the B6 stuff that I can learn at my leisure, without having the weight, size, expense, and string-changing of a D10. I think I'm home.
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Roland Buras

 

From:
Kiln, MS, 45 miles east of New Orleans off I-10 USA
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 8:15 pm    
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I started in 1997 on a GFI SD10 3x5 E9th, Great guitar, progressed rather fast but still did not want to take the time to learn the C6th neck. got to hear and see Eddie Long at Magee Ms. Then i knew what i wanted to play. got my first SD12 8x5 Excel guitar, took it to the stage the first weekend i got it, it was so natural, and all the sound i wanted. whatever style i want to play it is there for me. Just got my second Excel SD12 9x7, Thanks to Mr Bill Stafford with all his patience and great teaching ability i will continue to EXCEL with my excel Superb Guitars.

Roland {RJ} Buras
Ms Gulf Coast
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Billy Carr

 

From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2006 9:49 pm    
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S-12U player myself. Played D-10's for years, so switching over was easy. It's easier for me to just have everything on one neck. I have a S-12U Carter, blue birdseye mica w/9 & 5. Also have on order another Carter. Same thing, different color. Red birdseye mica. Add a flight case w/wheels to the 30lb. guitars and it's the way to go for me. Easy.
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Larry Bell


From:
Englewood, Florida
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2006 6:24 am    
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S-10 in '74; D-12 in '75
Universal since '75
E9/B6 S-12 since 1976 -- played Bb6 a year b4 that and preferred open E to Eb

One of these days I'll figure it out.
There's a lot there that most of us haven't tapped into yet.

My EMail and website URL are in my profile

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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1984 Sho-Bud S/D-12 7x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps


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Anders Brundell


From:
Falun, Sweden
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2006 8:22 am    
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Anders Brundell, Falun Sweden. Sierra SU14 since some 15 years. Copedant at http://groups.msn.com...

[This message was edited by b0b on 17 February 2006 at 11:15 AM.]

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Jim West

 

Post  Posted 13 Feb 2006 8:31 am    
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Count me in!

Fessenden U-12
Joe Miraglia


From:
Jamestown N.Y.
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2006 5:31 pm    
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Count me in to.
Fessender U12. Bought it last March.
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Ron Randall

 

From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 13 Feb 2006 6:37 pm    
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Hello Sonny,

I play a SU12. Bb6/Eb9. MSA Millenium M3.
Been at the Universal about 4 years now. Come from a guitar background, then nonPSG, and now PSG.

Ron
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Mark Metdker

 

From:
North Central Texas, USA
Post  Posted 14 Feb 2006 4:26 am    
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I've never played a double neck guitar. I started with a beginner type MSA guitar back in the '70's. The I switched to a MSA Universal 12....probably around '77, or '78. It's just about all I have ever played. I have had a couple of S-10's here and there, but always go back to the Uni.

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Sonny Jenkins


From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2006 9:34 am    
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I'm compiling a list of all of us "odd ball uni players",,,I'll forward the list to each of us. Also I'm converting Trap Truly's C6 chord chart over to B6/E9,,,I'll forward it when I'm finished. Maybe all uni players could start sharing things that are specific to our tuning and,,,,,it would benefit us.
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Mike Perlowin


From:
Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2006 9:47 am    
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Question: How many of us lower the 4th string to Eb with the knee lever and then raise it back to E with the B6 C pedal?

It always struck me that this was a very inefficient way to do it. I release the Eb lever (LKR,) and kick in another knee lever (RKR,) that lowers my 8th string to D (and also raises my 2nd string, which I tune to C# to D.) This gives me the B6 C pedal, and the missing D note on the E9. It also gives me a chance to relax the knee holding the Eb lever.
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Al Marcus


From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2006 9:59 am    
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My first earlier guitars in late 60's that I ordered from Reece, were MSA D12's with 10 pedals and 7 knee levers. Finally they seemed to be too heavy and the singele U12 made a lot of sense after visiting Reece in Dallas and hearing what he could do with one.
From then on it was always "Universals" mostly tuned as Reece's Bb\Eb. Later with my "Lean and Mean" tuning in E. But I also had a few D10's along the way to fool with too.
I still think the wave of the future is in a single 12 string tuning.....al

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Tim Bridges

 

From:
Hoover, Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2006 10:09 am    
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As of yesterday, I am now a Uni!! Picked up Gary Sill's Zum; a couple of KL changes are being made to an otherwise gordeous PSG. I was right on the verge of getting a new D-10, but had a serendipitous moment; while setting up the copedant for the individual that purchased my D-10, I saw the light. It really makes sense. To be able to play in and out of the 9th and 6th tunings just seems the way to go. Where's the D string? LOL
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