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Topic: Glenn Lee questions for Bobbe Seymour (and all) |
Emmo Floyd
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 11:53 am |
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Did Glenn Lee play with a Stevens Bar? I know that Randolph plays with one and I suspect the same from the Campbells.
Did he do his strumming (framming?) in E9th? What’s the strumming I hear on “Joyful Sounds?” Did he ever play in E7 or some of the more common Sacred Steel tunings?
He gets the “sacred steel” tone even if he does have a little more twang than most of ‘em. Would he just roll the tone back to get it?
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Dan Tyack
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 4:23 pm
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I'm not Bobbe Seymore, and he's glad of it....
I did play with Glenn Lee several times, what a fantastic player and a great guy. The first time I met him, he was playing at the House of God annual meeting in Nashville, and the first thing he did was hand me his bar and picks and invite me to play. Lucky for the congregation the service ended at that moment.
My recollection was that on that day he had a standard pedal steel bar, but I have heard him play with a Stevens. He played a standard E9th tuning for at least 4-5 years before his untimely death. He could get the framming done, but he did tell me it was a lot harder on the standard E9th than on a Sacred Steel tuning.
Some of the best pedal steel tone I have ever heard was on a video I saw of Glenn playing in a small church in Florida. He was playing an Emmons PP, and he hit a note that caused everybody in the church to give it up to him. I almost fell over in my chair just watching it on the video.
Glenn will always)be missed, but his nephew (cousin??) Roosevelt is doing a great job filling his chair in the Lee Boys.
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 5:04 pm
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Bobbe Seymour
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 6:01 pm
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I'm not Dan Tyack, and he's glad of it, however, I did build two steel guitars for My very dear friend "Glen Lee".
Miss him? Yes, and always will, a lot.
I feel Dan's answers to the questions would have more merit than mine, he saw Glenn Play live, I never had this privledge.
However I knew his tunings because of building his guitars.
NO! He did not use E 9th, it was a blatent "E 7th" with two E strings in the middle of the tuning.
Mr. Tyack can be a better authority on the other questions.
Glenn Lee, what a guy.
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Emmo Floyd
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Georgia, USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 6:23 pm
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There's an article on the internet (Eye Weekly, "Men of Steel") noting that "Glenn Lee studied with steel guitar virtuoso Bobbe Seymour in Nashville" and that this accounted for a country presence in his playing. If he played an E7th steel, what sort of stuff did he learn from you (I'm making the assumption that you're not often an E7th man)?
Also, what sort of effect would the Stevens bar have on Steel tone? I'd try to answer this myself, but I am sadly without steel -- all I've got right now is a dobrofied flying V with a squeaky ez-bender and a Stevens bar.
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Bobbe Seymour
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 7:05 pm
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I have no problem playing E 7th, or any tuning actually.
When I play steel shows, I always borrow just any guitar I can when I get to the show, any tuning, any necks, any pedal or knee set up.
A lap steel is what I played in Norwalk CT. on my second show. Music is music, it's all there. I don't even take a bar or picks.
Glenn studied very little "Country" with me, I showed him chords, 60's Motown songs, fast single notes and several electronic tricks I picked up over the years.
Of course, I'm sure some 'Nashville" influence leaked in at times, he seemed to like it.
He really loved the finger picking things.
Bobbe [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 06 January 2006 at 07:07 PM.] |
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Bobbe Seymour
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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 7:11 pm
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Jeff Lampert
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queens, new york city
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 8:25 pm
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| Roosevelt is doing a great job filling his chair in the Lee Boys |
Hey Dan. I had some correspondence with Roosevelt. He's big fan of jazz on steel guitar. Small world!!
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Drew Howard
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 8:43 pm
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Dan,
Pardon my ignorance, but what is "framming"?
thanks,
Drew
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Drew Howard - website - Fessenden guitars, 70's Fender Twin, etc.
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Dan Tyack
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 9:05 pm
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I'm not going to contradict Bobbe, and I am sure that Glenn used the 'standard' Sacred Steel tuning, but the guitar that I played in Nashville in 2000 was a totally stock E9th. Chuck Campbell and Alvin Lee both told me that Glenn used the E9th off an on for a number of years.
Framming (to answer the question) is the art of playing rhythm by strumming the lower strings of a steel. It's really hard on a standard E9th because of all those pesky chromatic strings.
Chuck and Alvin, can you guys answer this question?
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Dan Tyack
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Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2006 9:17 pm
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Mike,
The first guys that were notable in the Keith Dominion Sacred Steel community to use pedals were Chuck Campbell, Calvin Cooke, and Ted Beard. Glen might have used pedals coincedent with that, but he played in the Jewel Dominion (I think I have this right).
I believe that Glen was the first Sacred Steel player to play in the style using the E9th tuning (years before me  ).
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Bobbe Seymour
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Posted 7 Jan 2006 7:04 am
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What Dan is saying I can go along with, Glenn was very open to learning everything he could, this means several tunings also.
Glenn had a open mind that was after all the info it could get.
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Dan Tyack
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Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 7 Jan 2006 10:38 am
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| And Glenn *loved* country pedal steel (as do most Sacred Steel players). |
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