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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 6 Nov 2005 9:14 pm    
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Go to www.jerrybyrdfanclub.com and look in the "Ray's Page"......

Is this a pedal steel? Could it be done on anything other than a pedal steel? Wasn't "speed picking" the result of the high speed flexibility of the pedal steel guitar? This does require high speed right hand technique does it not?

Let me hear your comments.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 8:59 am    
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"Is this a pedal steel?"

Definitely not. Sounds like a C6th Hawaiian tuning to me.

Wasn't "speed picking" the result of the high speed flexibility of the pedal steel guitar?,

No. "Speed picking" is done by the player, not by the guitar. (Another post has some "speed picking" on a ukelele, only 4 strings, and certainly no pedals.)

This does require high speed right hand technique does it not?

Yes, of a moderate fashion. I hear some 16ths, but that's about it. No 32nd or 64th note clusters here. Still, it's great playing!

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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 9:28 am    
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I can't find the link for the music.
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Bobby Lee


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Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 9:51 am    
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I've heard Bobby Black tear up "Rocky Top" on a lap steel. Jerry Douglas can probably match speeds with Doug Jernigan and not break a sweat. Speed picking is a technique than can be mastered on any plucked instrument.

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Mark Eaton


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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 10:17 am    
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I don't see a heading for "Ray's Page," I only see "About Ray" with "New Panhandle Rag."

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Brad Bechtel


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San Francisco, CA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 12:04 pm    
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New Panhandle Rag for those of us not using IE & Windows.

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Mark Eaton


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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 12:32 pm    
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So I had it right.

That recording sounded old enough to pre-date pedals anyway, that's part of the reason I was confused.

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Stephan Miller

 

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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 3:11 pm    
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Ray, I enjoyed the ride in the middle. That'd be "fun" to learn.
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Jeff Au Hoy


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Honolulu, Hawai'i
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2005 3:44 pm    
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I second... sounds like straight C6 to me.
E top
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Herb Steiner

 

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Spicewood TX 78669
Post  Posted 8 Nov 2005 5:11 am    
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There were two cuts of New Panhandle by Smokey Rogers and the Caravan. I've got the other one around here someplace and when I find it I'll post a link. Same arrangement, but different solo by Murph.

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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 9 Nov 2005 11:38 pm    
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HERB: That would be great to get to hear. Thanks for your willingness to share.
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Stephan Miller

 

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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 11 Nov 2005 5:50 pm    
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Ray, what was the source recording? --Steve
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 11 Nov 2005 7:42 pm    
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STEPHAN: It was a Smokey Rogers "Coral" label from the early to mid-1950's. I was always amazed how far he could get away from the original written tune and still come up each time with a knock-out chorus of his own.
No gimmicks or gadgets.......just talented playing with basic instrument and technique.
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