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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Aug 2005 7:05 pm |
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Any of you ever heard of Billy Roberson,?
he don't need pedals.
ernie |
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 6 Aug 2005 8:20 pm
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Ever hear of Tommy Morrell?
He don't neither.
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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1984 Sho-Bud S/D-12 7x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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kyle reid
From:
Butte,Mt.usa
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Posted 6 Aug 2005 8:26 pm
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| But the ones with pedals sound a whole lot better! |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 6 Aug 2005 10:24 pm
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NOPE; never heard of Billy Roberson. I have heard of Tommy Morrell though.
Ricky |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 7 Aug 2005 1:19 am
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"But the ones with pedals sound a whole lot better!"
Kyle,
Ever hear Jerry Byrd? Or Tom Morrell? Don Helms? Kayton Roberts??? |
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Gary Spaeth
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2005 5:41 am
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| i think they invented pedals because of jerry byrd. so the "slant bar challenged" could get cose to what he did. like training wheels. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 7 Aug 2005 6:06 am
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I think Ernie must be referring to Hall of Famer Billy "Robinson".
I don't remember if Ernie was at the Hall of Fame Show we had in Feb of 04 at Catfish Johnny's but Billy was one of the featured performers and he also did a duo with Lynn Owsley. |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2005 7:07 am
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It's been said that Billy Robinson caused a lot of players to go out and buy pedal steels in the fifties. He's a freak of nature. Those sounds actually aren't possible without pedals - unless you're Billy Robinson! 
I've seen him play at several steel shows. He is incredible! Nobody else can play like that.
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2005 9:09 am
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OH Billy "Robinson"> Well sure; I know who he is...>he's one of the greatest for sure.
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Aug 2005 10:10 pm
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Billy Robinson has become a very good friend in recent years! I have (2) of his Cassette~Tapes on which he plays material that has left several very good PSG players wondering, “How/Why/When & Where”?
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Klaus Caprani
From:
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted 8 Aug 2005 12:41 am
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Kayton Roberts sounds very "pedalish" from time to time. Incredible that it is possible to sound like that without them.
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Klaus Caprani
MCI RangeXpander S-10 3x4
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Roger Miller
From:
Cedar Falls, Ia.
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Posted 8 Aug 2005 1:57 pm
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Thank you Klaus, yes Kayton sounded pedalish at times. You sure took the words out of my mouth. Take care.
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kyle reid
From:
Butte,Mt.usa
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Posted 8 Aug 2005 5:02 pm
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| Stephen G, Yes I have known of the non-pedal players that you mentioned, I knew the late Jerry Byrd & I know Don Helms, all great non-pedal players, I think that you will find that, most professional players would not be playing today, or for the past 40 or more years, if it wasn't for the sound of the pedal steel beginning back in 1955 with Bud Isaacs playing on Webb Pierces, [Slowly] when a whole new & more exciting sound was created! kr |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 8 Aug 2005 7:25 pm
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| Kyle, all respect, here. Yes, Bud Isaacs did something new. But are pedals More exciting? I love to see a three string slant, and hear it. This pedal monster is a beautiful instrument, also, but to me, there's something "real" about a good non-pedal player. |
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 8 Aug 2005 8:10 pm
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If you want to hear the sweet pedal-like sounds of the steel guitar, then do yourself a favor and give a listen to Jerry's featured instrumental on page one of the jerrybyrdfanclub.com web site.
When most of the current and rapidly diminishing group of all time GREAT steel players initially learned to play, one had to LEARN HOW TO PLAY the bar and to do so properly. There was no easy way out.
None of these great musicians think of themselves as Bar manipulating masters but rather, individuals that LEARNED TO PLAY steel guitar, starting on PAGE ONE......When pedals came into vogue,some chose to ad them to their tool box and others decided they didn't need them.
Those who started "new" with the pedal era, have discovered some challenging aspects about playing steel guitar, really well, while others have been cutting corners and
making excuses of why they cain't learn the required technique.
If only someone would come up with "a BUTTON" or "Pedal" or "digital thingy" or "lever" that would simulate the sounds of a slanted bar, that individual could become an overnight millionaire.
I don't believe Billy Robinson had any pedals when he was playing with Red Foley and the Cumberland Valley Boys on the Grand Ole Opry during the 1950's. Howard White didn't on his fine recordings nor did Joaquin Murphy on early Bigsby.
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Aug 2005 3:03 pm
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Thanks to Jack Stoner for correcting my typo. Yes he is the one and i was at the show and was excited to hear billy play.I started with no pedals and loved it, where are the good ole days.
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