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Topic: Who All made Push Pulls ??? |
Kevin Raymer
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Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2005 1:42 pm |
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I just read a posting for a 1969 PP for sale in the "for sale" forum. Some poor schmuck indicated that the seller should have listed the brand. Well... It was pretty obvious it was an Emmons for sale, but none the less it made me think, so I came here to ask.
Who else in the world of Steel Guitar manufacturers has made PP changers ??
Anybody but Emmons every successfull at it ??
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2005 2:49 pm
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I think some old Marlen guitars were P/P,, Emmons of course, The Promat that Demir has and loves,and I could be wrong but didn't Zum or Mullen offer a P/P changer on a limited basis??? or at one time had such an option??..
I might be crazy but I was almost positive one of the well known "modern" builders had such a beast available as a special order...bob |
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Bobbe Seymour
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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Apr 2005 4:18 pm
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Bob Carlucci my friend, No, Marlen did not make a P-P guitar, they made a "Pull-Release" guitar.
In the true sense of the term P-P, only Emmons and Promat have done this so far, with the exception of a couple "home made" builders, mostly unknown.
Every once in a while someone will say,"I have an old push pull Sho-Bud". There were no push-pull Sho-Buds. Only "Pull-Release". A rod held the string finger in the middle position and the lowering was accomplished by "releasing" the rod. The raise was a normal pulling of the finger.
Of course, some folks call anything a P-P, but only Emmons and now Promat make a true P-P and ever have.
I have heard rumors that Mr. Bobby Bowman has built one, two, or a few, but have never seen any.
No Sho-Buds, No Marlens, No Millers, Mullen, Zum, etc.
Don't confuse "Pull-Release" With P-P.
bobbe[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 07 April 2005 at 05:21 PM.] |
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Craig A Davidson
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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2005 6:19 pm
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Thanks Bobbe for the info seeing as how I am involved in that thread. The guitar in question you know about.
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Bobby Bowman
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Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Apr 2005 6:22 pm
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Kevin and Bobbe,
Yes, I did build and sell a true push pull guitar at one time. It was simply called the "B" guitar. I had a partner (Al Winters) who was a machinest and Al came down with some very serious medical and physical problems. So after only 17 guitars we decided to drop out of the guitar making business. I played my prototype for years. It was affectionally called "Bugger Red" and was one fine sounding and playing guitar.
Since then, Mr.Earl Fisher and myself have teamed up and designed a keyless double changer push pull that is a dream to play. However, at this time we have not made a full committment produce this guitar on a "commerical basis".
I first saw a double changer push pull that was made by BMI and Mr. Fisher and I developed the idea even further and have made it into a really good guitar.
BB
www.bobbybowman.com
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2005 11:05 pm
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| Bobbe .. I stand corrected... bob |
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Roger Edgington
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2005 6:01 am
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| I bought a car once and they told me it was a "steal". It turned out to be a push-pull for sure. Maybe I should have got a black one. |
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2005 8:05 am
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| I'd be real surprised if Bruce Z ever sold a push-pull however his student models guitars work like the pull-release that Bobbe described above. |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2005 8:16 am
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On the old Marlens and on the Sho-Bud Maverick, you pull the changer finger to raise a string and push the finger (against the tension of a spring) to lower a string. Now, I know it's more primitive than the fancy Emmons changer, but I have always called it "push-pull" anyway. Bobbe says I'm wrong.
One thing I'm not wrong about though: this topic belongs in the "Pedal Steel" section of the Forum. I'm moving it right now!
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