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Topic: Forum Decorum revisited |
ed packard
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Show Low AZ
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Posted 17 Mar 2005 4:28 pm |
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Herb S...I bit my tongue all thru your thread "suggestions". It was interesting to watch the "pet peeves" come up, and drift occur even while being denounced.
My personal take is : Mispellings do not bother me...I don't check my own stuff for spelling. My thoughts get ahead of my fingers sometimes, and I reverse certain letters, and also tend to spell phonetically...not too concerned...content before form.
No one brought up split infinitives, dangling participals, ending sentences with a preposition, wether y'all is singular or plural, or should perhaps be spelled y'awll, wether spelling variations for words like color/colour are acceptable, and so forth. Ever notice that even the talking heads don't put the ly on the appropriate adverbs?
It does not take long for someone to decide which posters post things of interest to them, skip the detailed reading of those that don't.
There might even be something to be said for Caps...street signs, highway signs, subway signs, airport signs, and the like are in caps....why?
I don't "write" in script, ..I block print it all in caps..my writing sucks...I have lousy motors. Reading caps does not bother me.
When I went to school, those in the Col' and science courses did not take typing. It was expected that a secretary would do that for you when you got in the outside world. Learning to type (actually hunt and peck is what I do) was a middle aged pain. So my sympathy to those that work hard at it to post only to be blasted by the less tolerant amoung us.
I find topic drift interesting, ...all conversations tend to drift. Most preachers can do it all by themselves, politicians have made it an art form. No matter what the question, they give you their preferred speel. I guess that it is a human trait.
Love a good jab, zingy comment, touch of sarcasm, and other types of spice in the broth. Fencing with words can be fun, but playing to kill is a bit beyond the limits?
Let's pick on Herb S. a bit; When he, an LA boy, uses "y'all" you know that it must be an acquired taste (or a put on), ..and should be translated as "all of you"...totally!
Herb can do a great Groucho Marx when he has a cigar... ask Joan Herndon Cox...I have the photo to prove it!
Herb is now at a status to be ROASTED (TX Steel Hall of Famer!). He is also exempt from reading my tech nonsense (which contrary to his comment he can understand).
Re my tech' stuff...it ain't for everyone, but it is for some if they know that it exists. The heavy extensive stuff is introduced on the Forum, and then handled off line. As has been said before to someone that complained within the thread, "it is not required reading".
What is the Forum for?..some say for fun...some say to learn things...some to carry on a public conversation with a friend or friends. We can all pick and choose what we post, and which posts we read...that seems pretty good to me.
This is another of those too long posts, and I did my own topic drift, misspelled a few words, broke a few grammer rules, did not say anything too technical, and probably managed to PO a good number of readers..."frankly Scarlett!".
Herb, when you start the Philosophy 101 course, sign me up.
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 17 Mar 2005 4:46 pm
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Eric West
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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Mar 2005 4:54 pm
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The English Language was designed by crooks to take things from people and entice them to kill one another.
I see no sense in bending one's thoughts to fit it.
I take no pity on it when I b!#*&slap a gerund or castrate a participle.
They should have armed themselves, I say.
There are plenty of things that cannot be expressed without bad grammar.
Or cusswords for that matter.
It's just a game after all, but then so is russian roulette...
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2005 4:58 pm
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 17 Mar 2005 5:23 pm
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Ed's post shows exactly how a post can be misinterpreted.
I initially stated in my thread that the difficulty in communication was NOT misspelling or bad punctuation... in fact I mentioned a couple of time that I wasn't a spelling or punctuation Nazi..., but was only the problem of WRITING IN ALL CAPS or Capitalization Of The First Letter In Every Word Of The Post, Regardless Of How The Word Is Used that makes reading a post difficult for the eyes to comprehend.
Not impossible to interpret, just more difficult, based on my experience with newspaper publishing, which most often uses smaller type fonts.
Nor did I "blast" anyone for not learning typing. I only made the suggestion that posters learn to use the Caps Lock key.
I was simply trying to add helpful suggestions to the mix, and I didn't put quotation marks around the word.
I use "y'all," Ed, because I most often write conversationally, like I talk. I've lived more years in Texas than I've lived in California, and yes, I've adopted the speech patterns of a Texas resident. Perhaps you have a problem with that, I don't know. If you were around me more than just a few hours every couple of years you'd have a better idea of how I speak, and what I think. I certainly don't appreciate your disingenuous comments on how I speak, however. You've got no business accusing me of any kind of affectations since you really don't know sh*t about me, okay?
People most often understand conversational speech more than the textbook jargon I always see you use in your technical writing, which frankly goes way over my poor little undereducated mind. I didn't spend years in academia, I don't have a college degree, and I spent far more hours in the honky tonks than I ever have in classroom. I learned my music by PLAYING IT in the trenches, Ed, not figuring out all the permutations on a freakin' calculator.
As for sarcasm, I find it works best, is more well-received, and is most entertaining when the sarcasm is directed at oneself, rather than others.
BTW, the word is spelled "spiel," not "speel."
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