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Topic: Charlie Daniels Band steel player? |
Joe Yednasty
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 6:14 am |
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Does Charlie Daniels have a steel guitar in his band? If so, who is it?
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Pat Burns
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Branchville, N.J. USA
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 7:39 am
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| uh oh |
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Pat Burns
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Branchville, N.J. USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 8:02 am
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| ...ooops...you're right, Bob...this area is for "steel players"...that last comment belongs in "music"...sorry! |
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Webb Kline
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 9:25 am
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I've never seen Charlie with a steeler and I lat saw him about a year ago.
With the exception of some intimate country hymns that Charlie played very well on acoustic, the show was what I would call progressive rock. He had a hot-shot kid playing guitar who was incredible. They did a lot of intricate harmony leads and played in odd meters. It was more akin to Yes or King Crimson than country, thus no need for a steel player. Different, but remarkable musicianship. The drummer could easily outplay the 2 drummers he used to bring along with him. |
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Pete Grant
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Auburn, CA, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 10:09 am
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"It was more akin to Yes or King Crimson than country, thus no need for a steel player."
Uh oh. |
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Pat Burns
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Branchville, N.J. USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 10:13 am
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..ouch, Webb...why can't a steel guitar be used to play music akin to Yes or King Crimson?...I think it's a great instrument for playing progressive rock...
...(you saw me coming, Pete)...[This message was edited by Pat Burns on 04 March 2005 at 10:14 AM.] |
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Terry Edwards
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Florida... livin' on spongecake...
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 10:20 am
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Steve Howe of "YES" is a steel player and performs with a steel on stage.
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Pat Burns
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Branchville, N.J. USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 11:52 am
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Ben Slaughter
From:
Madera, California
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 12:51 pm
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First, I'm a CDB fan, second this is somewhat off topic, third, I don't believe Charlie Daniels has ever claimed to be a country guy.
Listen to the older CDB stuff and it is Southern Rock to the bone. They were touing with Lynyrd Skynyrd, Marshall Tucker, the Allmans, and so on. The harmonized guitar riffs and syncopated beats have always been a trademark of CDB. He often uses two drummers the way the old a lot of the southern rockers did. Along with 2 or 3 guitars and an organ.
And Charlie himself is a guitar player, he started playing fiddle on a lark. Obviously, he became associated with country music with "Devil Went Down to Georgia" and the Urban Cowboy movie. But, he's always been a southern rocker, a good guitarist, a great song writer, an outspoken patriot, and from everything I've ever heard, a hell of a nice guy. |
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Terry Edwards
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Florida... livin' on spongecake...
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 1:24 pm
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| I don't believe Charlie Daniels has ever claimed to be a country guy. |
I don't know...maybe it was the chaw of tobaccy in his cheek and not necessarily the fiddle!
Just funnin' you CDB fans.
He put on a pretty good show with those hip-hop folks during Super Bowl!
Terry
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Webb Kline
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Orangeville, PA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 3:14 pm
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Hey Pat, you're absolutely right. I was thinking the same thing right after I posted that. Why not? Actually, I could see where steel could be used quite effectively with prog rock; it's just that it certainly is out of the norm. As out of the box as I am about just about everything, shame on me. 
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Bill Napier
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Niceville, Florida, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 3:56 pm
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| I saw CDB in the USAF Academy Field House in mid-80's. No steeler, (as Gabby Hayes would say, "Dad Burn It"), but his keyboard player, Taz, was a show unto himself. The huge speakers blasted so loudly, I placed wads of Kleenex in my ears to be able to endure the volume. Very entertaining show, and the price was right...free tickets. |
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Rick McDuffie
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Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2005 1:37 pm
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Charlie has never had a steel player, to my knowledge. While some of his stuff may sound a little country, he certainly has never thought of himself as a country player... he's always considered it to be "boogie" and blues. He's mystified that people call him "country" and doesn't understand why his albums get put in the country bin at the CD store. As he once told my daughter, Catherine, "we don't play country music- we play Charlie Daniels music."
Ben, Charlie has actually been playing fiddle since he was a teenager... he got started while living near Sanford, NC, where they lived when his Daddy cruised timber for a living... and he played mostly "hillbilly" music (as it was called then) at first. But he soon put the fiddle down and picked up the guitar... the fiddle was reserved only for "Orange Blossom Special" (always an encore number for the CDB) until the crowd started begging for more! He doesn't regard himself to be a fine fiddler. But ask some of the top Nashville fiddlers of today about Charlie Daniels, and I think you'll be amazed to find that they count him among their biggest influences. I heard Mark O'Connor make that very statement.
Charlie is a killer guitar player, poet, songwriter, and a prince of a man.
And you're right about that band. We played with them 2 years ago, with Sparky on guitar and Pat on drums- and they're better than they've ever been... and I've been listening to them live for over 30 years. Charlie's pushing 70 now, but he (and Tina Turner, if you are seeing the "Freeview" currently playing on DirecTV)  can still rock! 70 ain't what it once was- Ain't it great!!
Rick[This message was edited by Rick McDuffie on 05 March 2005 at 06:44 PM.] |
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Rick McDuffie
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Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2005 6:45 pm
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| Toy Caldwell of the Marshall Tucker Band did some recording sessions with the CDB... around the time of the Nightrider album, I think... if you heard steel, it was Toy. |
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Eric Gearhart
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Bellingham, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 5:20 am
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| There was a guy playing what looked like a melobar at the superbowl pre-show I think for the band that was on when Charley Daniels came up to play. Yes? No? Maybe....? |
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Billy Wilson
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El Cerrito, California, USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 5:46 am
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Webb Kline
From:
Orangeville, PA
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 6:06 am
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| Rick, You're probably right about Toy. That was a mutual kind of thing going on between them. Charlie played fiddle on MTB cuts as well. |
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Jon Light
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 6:18 am
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| There was a guy playing what looked like a melobar at the superbowl pre-show I think for the band that was on when Charley Daniels came up to play. Yes? No? Maybe....? |
I believe Gaylon Matthews, steeler with Gretchen Wilson, said that he was a prop w/ Daniels--not plugged in, just there to make it look more interesting than it was (my words, not Gaylon's). |
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Rick McDuffie
From:
Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 12:45 pm
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| So... should we not trust anyone over 70 now, Billy? |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 3:27 pm
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CDB kicks butt! I always considered them to be a Southern Rock or Boogie band. It I wanted to hear steel, I
wouldn't look for it from this band.
The "America, I believe in You" album has got slide guitar all over it though. Credits for guitar are Mr. Charlie and Bruce Ray Brown. I can only assume the latter is doing honors on slide. |
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Joe Miraglia
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Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 5:21 pm
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| He plays a Fiddle! Just like the Steel guitar,people think that makes it country.You know the saying a fiddle and a steel keeps it country,back in the 40's the 6 string guitar was for Cowboy music. When Rock and Roll came a long the guitar was the in thing -Wow a Lead Guitar.We all know that the Violin(fiddle) Guitar,and Steel Guitar can play different types on music,if the player whats to. Joe [This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 06 March 2005 at 07:00 PM.] |
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Charley Adair
From:
Maxwell, Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2005 6:45 pm
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"Leave That Long Haired Country Boy Alone!"
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Russ Hicks
From:
Pegram, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2005 3:15 pm
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| I played in a band here in Nashville in the 70's called Barefoot Jerry. We did some concerts with CDB and the Outlaws and other southern rock groups during that time...Charlie even gave us a 'plug' in one of his songs, The South's Gonna Do It Again. One day I got a call from Wayne Moss (Cinderella Studio) to come do an overdub for Charlie...when I got to the studio, set up and was ready to play, Charlie came in and told me he didn't want any 'slick' Nashville steel on his records and he wanted me to play as if I had been playing a few weeks...I told him 'no problem, that's the way I sound all the time'....I dont remember any of the songs or the title of the album, I don't even know if he used what I did or not, but I do list it under credits on my bio. GOD BLESS CHARLIE DANIELS & the CDB!!! |
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Stan Knowles
From:
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 9 Mar 2005 4:22 pm
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| His guitarist Tom Crain is given the credits on "Me and the boys" album. The only songs I can find with steel are American Farmer, and Drinkin' my baby goodbye. |
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