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Topic: Dick McIntire test pressings |
Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 14 Sep 2005 11:57 am |
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| Walked into a local record store today, and on the way I spied a stack of beautiful 78s. Right at the very back were two test pressings of Hawaiian Memories by Dick McIntire, one being an alternate take. I paid a decent amount for them, but it's still a cool find. I was wondering if anyone knows about test pressings of 78s and their value. I also have the handwritten music for this song by Dick. How cool is that? |
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Jeff Strouse
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Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2005 12:46 pm
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| Awesome find! If you get a chance to post any of that I know lots of folks would love to hear it. Congrats! |
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George Keoki Lake
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Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 14 Sep 2005 6:37 pm
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Please try to post that for us....what a great find !  |
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John Bushouse
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Mylos Sonka
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Larkspur CA USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2005 5:03 pm
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A jazz musician and collector I know by the name of Brad Kaye found some test pressings of Duke Ellington from the late twenties. To make a long story short, through trial and error he and a friend were comparing these pressings with other takes from the same session-- and discovered that some instruments were a little higher in the mix in the commercial release than in the pressing he had. It finally dawned on Brad that he might be listening to a backup pressing made with a second master cutting machine, using a microphone placed some distance away. If so, he reasoned, they were listening, in effect, to the right and left channels of a stereo recording made in the 1920s!!
They synced up the two records and lo and behold they were hearing Ellington in stereo.
He did some checking and found that, until around 1934 when Victor went from two mikes and two machines to one mike and two machines, there was a potential for discovering others. And he contacted other collectors who had pressing masters and found I think it was ten or twelve other Ellington "stereo" recordings. These were released about fifteen years ago.
So-- check with Bob Brozman or somebody who has the commercial releases for your stuff-- who knows, maybe you have the other half of a stereo recording.
As a footnote, the British apparently continued using two mikes up to World War Two, so Brad is currently remastering to stereo some classical recordings made by pre-war British symphonic orchestras.
Happy hunting.
Mylos Sonka
[This message was edited by Mylos Sonka on 15 September 2005 at 06:05 PM.] [This message was edited by Mylos Sonka on 15 September 2005 at 06:07 PM.] |
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 15 Sep 2005 6:04 pm
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Thanks for the interesting take.
The session involved took place on 5/17/35, and the numbers are DLA161=A and DLA161=B. There is no doubt that both are unique takes, as there's a missed harmonic note in the alternate version. Only DLA161=A was released on Decca (flipside of Pulupe with Ray Kinney)--the other take remains unreleased. |
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2005 6:18 pm
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Pretty cool ... Dad 
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Dan Sawyer
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Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 18 Sep 2005 11:24 am
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Mylos, thanks for that story about the stereo Ellington stuff. I remember reading about that when it was discovered. It's amazing that your friend figured it out. Those must be the earliest stereo recordings, although unintentional.
BTW, the abreviation for microphone is usually spelled "mic" not mike. |
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Larry Jones
From:
Santa Rosa, CA, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2005 11:32 am
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| i have the complete instruction course by dick mcintire in E7 called the dick Mcintire institute of hawaiian music. it's got 6, 78 records and tab plus it has dick talking in great condition |
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Gerald Ross
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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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