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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 4:00 am    
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Man I'm gettin into this recording bag. I stayed up one nite tryin to learn this one and got as close as I could so here it is for your critiquing pleasure. I'm discoverin that I get a better mix when I record dry. I tried to record using effects but I was gettin too much noise so I'm stickin to a dry recorded track and adding the effects that are built into PowerTracks.
Beautiful Kahana


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Roy Thomson


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Wolfville, Nova Scotia,Canada
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 5:56 am    
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You have a nice traditional Hawaiian "touch"
Andy and your "expression" is right on.
Can you put the sound of the Waves in a few
spots?
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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 6:18 am    
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That would be cool huh? I might have to work on that one Roy. It would be fun to import wav files into PowerTracks and work them into a tune. Thanks for the complimentary remarks Roy. I feel like I'm finally makin some progress here lately.

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Jack Therrell

 

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Conroe, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 6:59 am    
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Nice styling Andy. I assume you were playing on your stringmaster. Did I hear c6 tuning? Anyway a nice job. Jack
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Terry Farmer


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Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 8:42 am    
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Very nice, Andy. Great sound and playing!
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George Keoki Lake


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Edmonton, AB., Canada
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 9:21 am    
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It's very nice Andy. I detect a country style in your playing, but you do have a nice approach nevertheless. I wouldn't mess it up with "effects" were I you...just go with the nice sweet sound which you are achieving.
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Steinar Gregertsen


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Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 10:11 am    
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Quote:
Man I'm gettin into this recording bag. I stayed up one nite.......


Warning: Prepare yourself and your family for many sleepness nights in the future. Home recording is addictive!

Nice playing!

Steinar

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Les Anderson


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The Great White North
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 10:57 am    
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Very very rich and full sound in your music Andy. Great job and easy styling.

Who says you need pedals to make a steel sound good.

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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 12:58 pm    
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Thanks for all the comments guys, truly appreciated. Recording is gettin addicting alright.

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Kris Oka

 

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San Francisco, CA, USA
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 7:42 pm    
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Hey Andy. I like it. Kind of Country / Hawaiian mix. I'd leave it just the way it is. Very relaxing. Are you using the '37 Rick Panda, you devil you?
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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 16 Sep 2005 10:43 pm    
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Thanks Kris, I'm usin my Stringmaster on this one. I just checked UPS and it shows a delivery date of Sept. 23. on the Rickenbacher. I'm lookin forward to tryin some recording with it. I'm thinkin I'll go with a C6/A7 tuning on it.
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Don Kona Woods


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Post  Posted 17 Sep 2005 12:18 am    
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Andy,
Since you recorded the tune - Beautiful Kahana - I am assuming that you want it to sound Hawaiian.

It does sound more country than Hawaiian, but there is some potential for it to be more Hawaiian.

A few suggestions to that end -

1. Less reverb, probably no more than 1.
2. No foot volume control
3. Put more slide of the bar to the frets
4. Try to touch strings lightly with picks

If you want to play Beautiful Kahana and it really does not matter if it sounds country or like something else because it is your creation, then forget everything that I said above.

If you would like a little more Hawaiian touch try some of the suggestion above plus other suggestions that may come your way. Practice them and then put the same recording on again and let's see if the Hawaiian sound comes through more. Then we can all jump up and down with you and celebrate.

Best regards,
Don
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Gerald Ross


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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 17 Sep 2005 4:22 am    
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Don,

What do you mean by:

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3. Put more slide of the bar to the frets



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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Sep 2005 6:12 am    
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Thanks for the constructive criticism Don I love Hawaiian music and just started playin it recently. I know I still have a long way to go and I'm constantly workin on my touch but I'm confused too about "put more slide of the bar to the frets" can you clarify it some? I'll consider your suggestions though.

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Don Kona Woods


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Post  Posted 17 Sep 2005 12:04 pm    
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Gerald and Andy, I realize that this is an odd way to explain a procedure.

Andy, I do not mean for my comments to be even constructive criticism, but rather just helping if I can.

Let me try my explanation another way using the C6th tuning. Let's say that you were going to play a G note on the first string at the third fret, you begin your bar slide at fret 2 sliding to fret 3. In some cases you may want to slide from fret 1 to fret 3 for the effect that it gives. It is important that the bar stays in contact with the string at all times and blocking with the right hand other strings.

When taking the bar at fret 8 (C) on the first string and moving the bar to fret 5 on the third string (D) you would keep the bar on the strings at all times and move backwards sliding the bar from fret 8 to fret 5 third string. You must block with the right hand to prevent sound from other strings as you make the move.

The point is that you are not going with your bar directly to the fret but sliding the bar to the appropriate fret. You are looking for a slurring effect.

I hope this makes it a little more clear.

If not, maybe I can explain it another way. Maybe.

Aloha,
Don

[This message was edited by Don Kona Woods on 17 September 2005 at 01:14 PM.]

[This message was edited by Don Kona Woods on 17 September 2005 at 01:40 PM.]

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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Sep 2005 3:49 pm    
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Thanks Don I kinda had an idea what you were sayin, just needed some clarification. I appreciate your input and tips.

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Joe Delaronde

 

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Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 4:00 pm    
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What player do I need to play the song?
I'm using Windows Media Player.
Thanks
Joe
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John Bechtel


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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 8:59 pm    
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Gerald, Kona and Andy;
The proper ‘term’ referred to by Kona is “Upward~Gliss”! Keoni Nui

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Don Kona Woods


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Hawaiian Kama'aina
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 10:42 pm    
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Thanks for getting us staight John, but that is what moderator's are for, correct?

What about backward glisses? Would that be a proper term?

Mahalo nui,
Don
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