lone star steel guitar

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

does anyone have one of these guitars? and your thouoghts on it. i am considering buying one , they have a model with a 2x2 set-up that is upgradable .I kinda like the idea of keeping it simple

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

well i guess no one has one or has heard of them

Nick Reed · From: Russellville, KY USA

Calvin,
Great Guitars for the money. They have a website at: http://www.lonestarsteelguitar.com

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

thanks , what do you think about the 2x2 set up and that it can be upgraded. on the web site the guitar i'm talking about is $549.00 or something like that, new

Steve Richter · From: Neenah, WI USA

Calvin,

It depends on where you are musically. When I first picked up the steel I had already been playing guitar for 25+ years and a lot of that trying to cop steel licks on guitar, so I kinda fell right into it. I bought a "beginners" steel guitar and within a week or 2 I was up against it's limitations.

In my opinion, if you think you're serious about pickin, spend another 600 bucks or so and save yourself some frustraton and have a guitar you can stay with. At least 3 pedals and 4 knees.

And that comes from a relative beginner, so take it for what it's worth.

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

would the 2x2 set up be easier to learn on ? if i understand it right , it would have A & B pedals with the 2 left knee levers

Jimmie Misenheimer · From: Bloomington, Indiana - U. S. A.

Cal, I'm with Steve on this (for what it's worth). I don't know anything about this brand, so I mean no "put-down" of that, but
I think that in the longrun you would be much better off to get more guitar. Fold the levers up and learn them one at a time. I assume that you are interested in playing at least some of what you are hearing on the radio today, and for the last few years. To do this, you will need at least 3 and 4. I've heard people say for years things like "Man, I could never do anythig with that much stuff - pedals and levers - on it..." I figure that you're NEVER going to learn to play ANYTHING that you DON'T have. This is just my .02 cents, and after this Christmas I'm not sure that I have that much left!! Take care my friend, and good holidays to you and yours... Jimmie

Joe Naylor · From: Avondale, Arizona, USA

Celvin - I have been playing about a year and in one of my first lessons with a 3+1 I was told I simply did not have enough guitar for what I wanted to do. I bought a 3+4 Desert Rose for not much more than what you are looking at and it was new - been very happy with that and now have a 3+5 Pro Model - My idea is to buy what you need and I did.

My 2 cents worth -

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Joe Naylor, Avondale, AZ (Phoenix)Desert Rose Guitar

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

On one hand, an awful lot of music can be played on a 2+2 guitar. Understanding all that is available and learning how to use it would probably take the average player a couple of years.

On the other hand, many beginners would find it "limiting", because most instruction available now is geared a minimum 3+4 setup. Also, if a player doesn't have all the pedals to get the moves he hears on recordings, he is apt to become frustrated and think that he is being severly limited by his guitar. While he is limited, it's not nearly as restricting as one might think, especially after a player becomes more proficient, he learns to get "more with less".

So the biggest problem is perception, and that perception is all point of view. The beginner rapidly thinks he has to have more, and only the experienced player realizes how much can be done with just A+B, and a couple of levers. Beginners are quick to blame their equipment when they can't do this or that, so starting with a guitar that has at least 3+4 helps to eliminate this tendency.

I believe the basic 3+4 (like a Carter Starter) would probably be better for most beginners, and it's only $150 more for the extra 3 pedals over the $549 2+2 Lone Star.

Bob Evart · From: Granbury, Texas, USA

Calvin
Check and see what it will take to build one with 3 & 4 from this dealer and compare. Pricing is important, but so is flexibility. I bit the bullet and opted for a more expensive guitar to start with. Feel I will spend less in the long run.

Carter steel starter that was mentioned earlier is another example - lot of folks sell them on the forum - so you may be able to get a good price on a used one. Also on the Musician's Friend web site - they are approx $200 under Carter list price.

I just got a Rains single neck - really nice, but a bit more than a starter in price. http://www.rainssteelguitars.com

Good luck - hope this helps.

[This message was edited by Bob Evart on 26 December 2004 at 09:52 AM.]

Jimmie Misenheimer · From: Bloomington, Indiana - U. S. A.

It's the "later on" that I'm thinking about. If and when it comes time to expand, then you have to get some parts - NOT talking about this or ANY other brand - if they are still available. If not, and you have to have them made, get your wallet out. Then you either have to install them, or have someone do it for you if you don't wrench on your own rig. That could mean taking it, or shipping it somewhere. All of that PLUS the instructional material being somewhat more expanded. That's what makes me think a fellow would be better off to buy "more" guitar right from the get-go. Catch you guys later... Jimmie

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

thanks for all your input, you have convinced me to stay with at least the 3 & 4 set up , i have had a carter starter but it was just a bad fit for me i have a 28 inch inseam ( very short legs ) and could not find a way to make it fit me very well , so this time i am going to be very picky about how it it feels to me . something that i can adjust more than the carter

Ron ! · Posted 26 Dec 2004 12:56 pm

Way to go Donny.

Exactly my thought.
Couldn't agree with you more here.

Jim Bob Sedgwick · From: Clinton, Missouri USA

Calvin, JM 2cents worth. Having the knee levers on the guitar does not mean you have to use them yet. The meat and potatoes of the 9th tuning are on the A and B pedals and the levers raising and lowering the 4th and 8th strings 1/2 tone. But when you are ready for the other combinations they are there and you don't have to alter the guitar. Go with 3 & 4 and you'll have most of what you hear on records.

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

i did look at the desert rose site and the 3 & 4 i saw there was $1800.00 i am sure that they make a fine steel, just not sure its the most bang for the buck , pretty sure i could get a pretty decent promodel for that, even if it is used

Steve Richter · From: Neenah, WI USA

I was thinking about what Donny said today and the truth is I could get by just fine with only the 2 knees on the E's .. I do love the B+C combination, but don't really use it that often. My first guitar was not upgradable so that was part of the frustration. So .. what Donny said .. a lot of music can be made with a 2x2 ...

Bill Ford · From: Graniteville SC Aiken

Calvin
Here is one on buy/sell,student Zum. Don't know if they can be upgraded tho,3+4,red.

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum9/HTML/000839.html

James Morehead · From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.

[This message was edited by James Morehead on 27 December 2004 at 05:17 PM.]

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

i just got off the phone with Zum steel guitars , they are going to build me a new one . it will take about 6-8 weeks to get it but i think it will be worth the wait

thanks for all the advise folks
don't know what i would do without you

Steve Richter · From: Neenah, WI USA

Hey Calvin, what configuration did you decide on?

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

i settled on the 3&4 setup. you fellas convinced me to go with that.

thanks a bunch

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