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Topic: question for Jay Dee Maness |
Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 5 Dec 2004 9:32 am |
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Jay Dee,
In your vid you mention that Lloyd Green was a major influence on your playing. What did it feel like playing on the same record as him when you did the "Sweethearts of the Rodeo" sessions ?
Also that video has some super valuable stuff in it. One thing that blew my mind is when you showed how to play the exact same ending chord in a normal way and then by bringing out the root note for a better ending sound. Thats the stuff that separates you from us mortals !
Plus I'm having fun twisting my mind up with the chromatic licks.
Any of you guys want to make a smart investment in steel instruction should absolutly pick up Jay Dee's vid.
http://www.jaydeemaness.com/video.html
thanks for putting in the time to do the video.
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Bob
intonation help
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Jeff Lampert
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queens, new york city
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Posted 5 Dec 2004 9:51 am
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Bob,
Since you're been listening to JayDee, you should check out some of his lesser known stuff from the Tony Booth albums from the 70's. While his playing on "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" is the epitome of taste and style, his playing on "Lonesome 7-7203" is otherworldly, to say the least. Positively ethereal. Definitely get hold of a copy. .. Jeff
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[url=http://www.mightyfinemusic.com/jeff's_jazz.htm]Jeff's Jazz[/url]
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 5 Dec 2004 4:55 pm
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| I personally don't think that anyone has a better touch and feel for the psg than Jay Dee. And the most important item IMO, (as Carl Dixon informed me recently); the "ear" for the instrument. It seems to take me forever to get a lick down, with the tab in front of me no less. He is just a fantastic super talented musician and IMO a great guy to boot. Carl and I weren't discussing Jay Dee, but playing the psg and I immediately thought of Jay Dee. |
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Dustin Rigsby
From:
Parts Unknown, Ohio
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Posted 5 Dec 2004 6:36 pm
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When I was little, The Dukes of Hazzard were an influance on me. Thanks Jay Dee ! 
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D.S. Rigsby
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Tom Olson
From:
Spokane, WA
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Posted 5 Dec 2004 7:06 pm
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| I've always wondered which songs on "Sweetheart" are JayDee and which are Lloyd. |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2004 9:45 pm
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| I know that I've promised this before- but we are hoping that the newest video of Jay Dee will be done in January- last count it was 2 hours long (before the cuitting room floor, that is) |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 4:33 am
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Jim bring some to Mesa with you, I will be your first sale.
Oh and don't forget to bring JD.
Larry Behm[This message was edited by Larry Behm on 07 December 2004 at 04:35 AM.] |
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Darrell Owens
From:
California, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 5:42 am
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We cut a session with Jay Dee earlier this year. He played every note flawlessly... AND He is great to work with.
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Chris Brooks
From:
Providence, Rhode Island
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 6:44 am
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Jeff, I agree. The Tony Booth abum has killer intros, rides, and "out-tros" by JD.
"You've Been Too Lonely Too Long," "Lonesome 7 -7": Great stuff!
Chris |
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Dave Van Allen
From:
Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 8:43 am
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| I've always wondered which songs on "Sweetheart" are JayDee and which are Lloyd. |
I think it breaks out like this:
You Ain't Goin' Nowhere = Lloyd
The Christian Life = Jay Dee
You Don`t Miss Your Water = Jay Dee
You're still on my mind= Jay Dee
Hickory Wind = Lloyd
100 Years from now = Lloyd
Life in Prison= Jay Dee
Nothing Was Delivered= Lloyd
All I Have Are Memories = Lloyd
-edit- in this thread Lloyd defines who played what:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/005996.html
I was closer than I thought [This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 06 December 2004 at 08:53 AM.] |
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 3:01 pm
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| Uh, Jim, if you want to make it more than two hours it's ok by me. I'll want a copy. |
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Chris Bauer
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 3:34 pm
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| I'll gladly pay extra for the outtakes! |
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 7 Dec 2004 10:19 am
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Thanks for the link, Dave, I've wondered the same thing for years.
I used to go down to San Pedro (?) with some friends when Jay Dee was doing a weekly radio show from a little club. Made all that beautiful music look totally simple to play and you still liked being in the same room with the guy even when he wasn't playing. I worked a number of shows with the Desert Rose Band and he was always a delight to see offstage as well as on. Worked recently with Jon Jorgenson and we were both missin' Jay Dee...
Since, however, this is a question thread - my question for Jay Dee is "when are you going to be playing up Oregon way?"
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 Dave Grafe - email: dg@pdxaudio.com
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Pickin', etc.
1978 ShoBud Pro I E9, 1960 Les Paul (SG) Deluxe, 1963 Precision Bass, 1954 Gibson LGO, 1897 Washburn Hawaiian Steel Conversion
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Tom Olson
From:
Spokane, WA
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Posted 8 Dec 2004 2:41 pm
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Dave V. -- thanks for the info. By the way, while we're on the subject, anyone know what type of gear JD and Lloyd each used on the "Sweetheart" recordings?
I am listing to the CD as I write this and there's definitely some differences to the steel sound from track to track. The steel on "Life in Prison" (and other JD tracks) almost sounds like a Fender to my totally untrained ears.
I'm really curious to know what guitar and amp each of them used. Thanks to anyone who might know.
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Tom Olson
From:
Spokane, WA
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Posted 9 Dec 2004 2:03 pm
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| Anybody? --bump-- [This message was edited by Tom Olson on 09 December 2004 at 02:04 PM.] |
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Gerald Menke
From:
Stormville NY, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2004 5:54 am
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I have heard from at least one source that Lloyd is using a Deluxe on "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere", which makes sense considering how overdriven his sound is on that track versus the tone on "Hickory Wind". I'd bet they were using higher-powered Fenders like Twins on the cleaner sounding tracks.
Sorry for the topic drift. |
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 10 Dec 2004 6:08 am
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Sorry to continue the drift, but I have to respond to Chris's
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There have been several releases of SWHOR, I have the original record, and a double CD set I purchased about two years ago. The CD has many outakes, and alternate rehersals takes. It also has songs by "The International Submarine Band"
and a great booklet with recent notes by Lloyd describing the sessions and his experiences with The Byrds.
A great piece of Steel history. |
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Chris Forbes
From:
Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2004 8:41 am
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| They've also released a complete cd copy of the International Submarine Band album. It's got JD all over it. I think it's the cat's meow and the dog's bow wow. |
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Larry Sasser
From:
Conyers,Ga. USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2004 10:53 am
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| I have Jay Dee's video and it is outstanding and there is something for everyone. I think he is one of the best E9 players I have ever heard and a wonderful person also. |
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Bill Pastuch
From:
Bluegrass Country Kentucky USA
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Posted 26 Dec 2004 3:57 pm
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Although I agree wholeheartedly on the accolades awarded to JayDee's work on the Tony Booth album, I think his work on "The Keys in the Mailbox" ranks right up there with "Lonesome 7-7023" as well as Tom Brumley's ride on the Buck Owens evergreen, "Together Again."
That's my humble opinion and I'm a stickin to it.
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Jon Graboff
From:
Santa Fe, New Mexico
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Posted 26 Dec 2004 5:21 pm
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| While folks a weighing in on great recordings featuring Jay Dee, I'd like to direct your attention to a Herb Pederson recording from 1984 called "Lonesome Feeling". I posted about this CD on the forum a few years back but I do think it's worth mentioning again. This CD contains some absolutely fantastic steel playing by Jay Dee and as a matter of fact, the steel break on the Louvin Brothers tune "Childish Love" has been an important practice piece for me. Since I discovered this record, I've been thinking that if I ever get to the point that I can play that break well, I'd be getting somewhere. I'm getting closer! Check it out if you can find it. Jon [This message was edited by Jon Graboff on 26 December 2004 at 05:22 PM.] |
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Bill Pastuch
From:
Bluegrass Country Kentucky USA
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Posted 26 Dec 2004 6:50 pm
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Jon, I don't have that Herb Pedersen CD but I do have a Chris Hillman/Herb Pedersen CD on Sugar Hill "Bakersfield Bound" with JayDee capturing sounds like I haven't heard since the early 60's via Jay McDonald, Ralph Mooney and Tom Brumley on those early Buck Owens originals.
JDM nails some early Wilburn Bros., Louvin Bros. and Buck Owens goodies from that era including Playboy, Close up the Honky Tonks,
Which One is to Blame, My Baby's Gone and others.
There are a lot of simply super steel players that have evolved down thru the ages and JayDee is one that I'm rapidly running out of superlatives to describe. |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 27 Dec 2004 12:17 am
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I just got a CD of "Sweethearts of the Rodeo" with the out takes also.
It is a great CD, I had forgotten how much I liked this back when.
It is pretty clear which cuts are Jay Dee and which are Lloyd,
even without Lloyd noting which are which in another forum thread.
It is clear Jay Dee had developed his slightly more aggresive style at this point.
Maybe not quite as smooth as Lloyd, few are or ever will be,
but cool for itself.
And yo can hear precursors to Revisited from Lloyd's playing.
This one goes in the car for regular rotation.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 27 December 2004 at 12:21 AM.] |
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