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Topic: Who played on..."Talkin' To The Wall"? |
Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 Nov 2004 9:01 am
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I was listening to this cut on The Record Lady's site, and it struck me that the steel has a very unique (thin, metallic) tone. I know Lloyd played on most of Warner's early stuff, but this sounds quite different than Lloyd's early playing, and it sure don't sound like no Sho~Bud!
Anyone know for sure? |
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John Bechtel
From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Nov 2004 10:22 pm
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I'll ask Lloyd Tue. night and let you know. To the best of my knowledge at the moment, I'd have to go with Lloyd Green on that one! But I'll double-check. - - - - -
Well, I see farther on down the line that the matter has been settled. - - - I guess I'll have to check my Saved E-Mails and go after some answers to a few other people's questions! Time waits for no one!
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Rick Johnson
From: Wheelwright, Ky USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2004 4:05 am
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Donny
What is the link to the Record Lady?
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Rick Johnson
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Rich Mounce
From: Dunfermline, Il
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 2 Nov 2004 9:00 am
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Yes, it's a GREAT site, and she deserves thanks for her efforts!
Stylistically, the playing on this record reminds me more of Hal, or Weldon, or maybe even Hughey, in his early days, than it does of Lloyd, but you just never know. Tone-wise, it's unlike anything you're likely to hear anywhere else. When guessing players, I usually throw tone into the equation along with style, but the trebly (is that a word?) sound on this one makes even Lloyd's work on All Night Cafe sound "fat". It's almost like it was done through some sort of processor, or a Vox amp with a 4" speaker...it's that bright and thin! |
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Ricky Davis
From: Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2004 9:06 am
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Lloyd Green. |
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Ricky Davis
From: Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2004 10:28 am
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Ok this just in from Lloyd to explain:
quote: OK, here are the facts concerning "Talkin' To The Wall". First, I didn't play on "All Nite Cafe". That's Pete Drake.
The very next record of Warner Mack's was the record that launched my career and style, "The Bridge Washed Out", Warner's first and only #1 record. The following record was "Sittin' On a Rock", followed by "Talkin' To The Wall" , all of which I'm on. By then, everyone was using my style and Warner called one day wanting to know why I was using it with many other singers and wearing it out. When I asked him for record and artists names I had to tell him...that one is Weldon....that one is Hal, etc. I was trying to find other ways of playing so I didn't sound the same on everybody's songs although I did experiment more with this style on early Johnny Paycheck recordings such as, "The Lovin' Machine".
After about a year or two, among the three of us, the style was certainly dead! Of course Weldon and Hal had bigger fish to fry anyhow, with Connie Smith and Loretta Lynn, each with his own fingerprint.
My steel at the time was, on all records between 1965 &1967, Sho-Bud double neck with a pearl inlay heart in the center and a 1965 Fender black-face Deluxe, with one D-120F JBL speaker.
Lloyd Green
There ya have the facts.
Ricky |
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Ricky Davis
From: Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2004 10:46 am
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quote: Ricky,
I forgot one thing. There is a counterfeit version of "Talkin' To The Wall". A few years ago Warner Mack went in the studio and cut a "Greatest Hits" cd to sell on the road. Whoever the players were they were unable to duplicate our Decca recordings. It's pretty bad, And they were trying to replicate all those hits, including "The Bridge Washed Out".
Lloyd G.
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 2 Nov 2004 4:07 pm
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Thanks to Ricky, and especially to Lloyd for all that information. Fascinating! I'd have never guessed that cut was done on a a Sho~Bud guitar. |
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