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Topic: who is the steel player in alan jackson's |
Terry Sneed
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 7:33 am |
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New song (The video) " To much of a good thing"? just curious. I know Loyd played the recording.
well, I didn't see the post below, I'm assuming it's Robbie on the video.
another question, why does Allan, or other singers, get Loyd Green, or other session players to play steel on their recordings, and have a different road player? why don't they get their road player to play on their recordings?
Terry
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session 400'rd Steelin for my Lord.
[This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 25 August 2004 at 08:43 AM.] |
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Tim Harr
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 8:09 am
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If you have to ask why use Lloyd Green when you could get a "road player"....
Maybe you need to get a Lloyd Green album and give that question some more thought...
Are you really asking this or just trying to be funny???
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David Spires
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Millersport, OH
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 8:49 am
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There is probably no "good" way to say this, but I wish more artists did use their band in the studio. For one thing, it would help each artist have an sound that would be their own.
No one (I don't think) loves Paul's playing any more than I do, but I love hearing Lloyd on the last two AJ tunes. Why? Mainly because it is a different interpretation than Paul would have given.
I know why producers and artists turn to the "A" team players. They have been there, done that, and it saves time in the process. To put it this way... Didn't everyone love John Hughey's playing with Vince? Sure, John's one of the very best, as is Lloyd, but part of what I loved about it was hearing John as part of Vince's sound - like Bouton was with Skaggs.
In this day of digital recording & overdubbing, you just can't convinice me that you couldn't take A.J.'s road band and make a great sounding record. Now, it might cost more... ??
Only my opinion, and Random Ramblings,
David Spires
PS - Maybe I have this opinion because I still long to do what Paul, John, Bruce, and Lloyd do for a living...  |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 9:44 am
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Terry,
First of all, my following comments are not meant to reflect on this particular case. Only as a general observation:
Some players are good at studio work. Some are good at live situations. Some are good at both. A good studio musician is able to understand and create what the artist/producer whats from a song in a quick and efficient manner. Dollar wise, this is good for both the project and the session player. Some road players (no matter how well they play) may not be as good at it as a pro session picker.
With regard to this particular situation, I don't think any band's road player could fault a producer for wanting to hire a legendary player such as Lloyd Green. Lloyd, Buddy, Paul or John Hughey all can deliver what is expected as well as add prestige to the project.
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Ron Page
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Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 10:17 am
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I think it's because the studio guys need re-takes, whereas the road guys only get one shot per gig to make it right. 
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Mark Metdker
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North Central Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 10:21 am
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| Been there, done that. Glenn is right. It's all about $$$. When the studio calls, they want it done right the first time. That's what studio guys do well, that's why they are "studio" players. There are more players that are good as "road" players than good studio guys. that's why you see the same handfull of studio cats playing on dang near all the records in Nashville. |
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Terry Sneed
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 11:46 am
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If you have to ask why use Lloyd Green when you could get a "road player"....
Maybe you need to get a Lloyd Green album and give that question some more thought...
Are you really asking this or just trying to be funny???
somebody's always gotta try and be cute! 
Thanks David, lynn, and Mark!
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84 SKH Emmons Legrand D10
session 400'rd Steelin for my Lord.
[This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 25 August 2004 at 01:08 PM.] |
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 12:15 pm
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It's an old story. Hank Williams argued with Fred Rose about using his road band for Hank's early recordings in the late 1940's. Fred refused, for much the same reasons as Glenn listed.
At least at that time we didn't have to ask why Jerry Byrd wasn't in the video. 
-John
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Don Walters
From:
Saskatchewan Canada
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 2:16 pm
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| ... as well as add prestige to the project ... |
I hope that's true, Glenn, but I doubt it. Who, outside our community knows, or even cares?
I hope I'm wrong ...
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 2:17 pm
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Add to all the above, there is rarely a band playing in the session. Just a series of overdubs to be assembled later.
UPDATE: See Lloyd's comments at http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum15/HTML/007193.html [This message was edited by Joey Ace on 25 August 2004 at 08:17 PM.] |
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Tim Harr
From:
Dunlap, Illinois
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 7:32 am
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Terry,
Hopefully now you have a better insight as to the producer's decision to use a studio player instead of a road player.
They are both fine players but the producer decieded to go with Lloyd.
Not trying to be cute. Just thought that was something that most already have figured out.
No disrespect intended here. Just my assumptions.
My best,
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Tim Harr - Carter D-10 8p & 9k w/ BL-705s; Webb 6-14E Amplfier
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