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HowardR


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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2005 1:24 pm    
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We began speaking about this in another thread.


I would consider hosting a steel jam one Sunday a month begining in Nov through April. This would take place in one of my stores in NYC. This would be open to non pedal, pedal, and resophonic guitars with possibly a few other acoustic instruments.

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Some initial thoughts on it are that I would exclude Bluegrass style dobro. There are already enough places where this is being addressed. I would include, on the acoustic side, tricone work ala Mike Neer, Brozman, etc. The whole Sol Hoopi thing.


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Well, there are some things to consider.
I could not have an unlimited amount of people due to space. I have a large front area that could hold 12-14 people comfortably.

I have a back room where 6 or 7 people could play comfortably.

I agree about bluegrass as I would not want that to be the predominent genre but I wouldn't want to ban bluegrass. I wouldn't want all blues, all Hawaiian, all gospel, all anything for that matter. As far as a jam, let's mix it up and keep it lively & interesting. Not too much of any one thing.




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Howard, great idea, thank you. I'm about 4 hours away and with enough advance notice I'd definitely be there. (Joel, maybe you and I could carpool to one of these.) Something like Sunday afternoon 1:30-5:30, then split for dinner/travel?
Couple of points-- #1: with Howard's max. capacity of about 20 people, why don't we hold off taking this idea to the radio, other forums etc. until we gauge the interest on the SGF? I bet we could just about fill the place (the 1st time anyway) with Fo'bros. #2-- Maybe we could look at lining up an accomplished non-peddler for a 40-min. lesson (everybody interested comes up with, like, $10?).
Howard, I see your point about not excluding any kind of music. OTOH, I don't have to drive across several state lines to find a bluegrass jam...Yeah, let's do it! --Steve




Please keep the feedback coming and I'll address the issues and thoughts.

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Jason Dumont

 

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Bristol, Connecticut, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jul 2005 2:09 pm    
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Count me in!
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Ron Victoria

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2005 2:36 pm    
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Would these be in Manhatten? What's the parking situation?

Ron
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 4:44 am    
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Ron, yes, right smack dab in NYC. You can park on the street on Sunday. I haven't been here on a Sunday in years and I remember it being next to impossible to find a spot.

However, this past Spring when I hosted the Heffernan Workshop, there were plenty of spaces. There are parking garages within a block away. They cost $25-30 to park.


When I mentioned other acoustic instruments, I was mainly thinking of guitars. It would be nice if there were one or two acoustic guitars and vocals. Some people double on instruments. I could have a guitar on hand. for that reason. If a fiddler showed up fine. A bass fine. It will not be a bluegrass jam.


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Maybe we could look at lining up an accomplished non-peddler for a 40-min. lesson (everybody interested comes up with, like, $10?).



Man! If I were Maurice Anderson, I'd jump all over this!!!
just joking around Mr. Anderson


It's a good idea and if someone could and would be lined up for this, that would be great.


I'm also open to one day workshops. I'll be working on this and see what can be lined up.

This can be a good thing.

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[This message was edited by HowardR on 23 July 2005 at 06:38 AM.]

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Jody Carver


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 7:00 am    
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Ron
They charge according to the amount of necks you have. If you had a quad you have to pay on "lay away"

Single necks mmmmmmmmm well I guess you can get a senior discount if you use you're vintage Fender.
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Jody Carver


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 7:05 am    
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My Buddy Howard writes and I quote

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They cost $25-30 to park....................

Yes but I suggest you leave your hub caps at home. only kidding. I wished, I wished I could be there with ya'll.

Have a great time.
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 7:58 am    
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Jody, there's no reason why you can't. From Nov through April once a month.
sounds like my first marriage
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You can come on down for any or all. The pastrami is on me!

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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 8:34 am    
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The pastrami is on me

That's disgusting! Oy! You'll never pass muster, or should I say mustard?
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Gerald Ross


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 8:57 am    
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Can you get decent pastrami in New York City? Or any decent food for that matter.

Now I know my pastrami. Subway's #5 on white with American cheese, mayo and sweet pickles is one of my favorites. Now that's pastrami.


How can New York delicatessens compete with Subway? Same food, and a lot cheaper at Subway, softer bread too!!(yum) (and those 'ethnic' people at the deli are so loud)

How can this compete with the Two-fer Tuesday deal at Subway?
Here's a picture of the Milton Berle - sandwiched between a Jane Russell and a Dorothy Lamour (new dill not shown).



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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 9:26 am    
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A) you can't get a pickle like from Brooklyn
B) no Dr. Brown's Cream Soda
C) there ain't no pastrami nowhere, nohow as good as NY (although the Jack Cooper Deli in my neck of the woods is close, and they have kugel, and matzoh ball soup)
D) I can't go in a Subway--yikes! They give hoagies a bad name.

Gerald, no cheese on a pastrami sandwich. It's mustard or cole slaw (with Russian dressing). You want cheese, you order a Reuben sandwich.

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Gerald Ross


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 9:40 am    
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You vant I should tell you about kugel? My Bubbe would make such a kugle, it would make you platz!



And matzoh ball soup... like little clouds floating.



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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 9:56 am    
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It looks great--as long as it's not on Howard.

Seriously, sounds like a good idea, although I believe you'd need some good rhythm players (guitar, bass). Could be set up like a songwriters' roundtable. Maybe you could get a nightclub to allow performances like this. I used to do these songwriter things once in a while at the Bitter End. I'm sure there are some lower profile clubs who might agree to something like this.

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HowardR


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 10:16 am    
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I'm only a couple of blocks from Ben's. Their motto is "We cure our own corned beef, our chicken soup cures everything else"


What about rythymn tracks? What would be needed to have a decent set up? This may be the way to go.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 10:59 am    
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I don't think rhythm tracks would be the way to go because, a) they're generally pretty uninspiring, and b) you can't extend it or change keys and pass it around for everyone to take a crack at.

An acoustic guitar, upright bass and a good book of charts is all that's needed for a good jam. Maybe a megaphone, too.
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Don Kona Woods


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 11:03 am    
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AND UKELELE
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 11:19 am    
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Okay, Gerald's banned.

I suppose you like California Bagels too?
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Bill Creller

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 1:37 pm    
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I'm just a country boy (how many times have you heard that bull),so I would just settle for an Arby's roast beef burger. Or, dont they have Arbys in NYC, that IS another country isn't it?
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 5:58 pm    
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I think the closest Arby's is in the mall close to where I live. My 11 year old daughter saw it the other day and had no idea what it was.

Just go to the nearest NY Deli: I think they have roast beef.
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 6:37 pm    
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Well, perhaps we can scare up a bassist & guitarist.

If anybody knows one of each who would partake....
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Joel Newman

 

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Smithsburg, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 6:59 pm    
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Well I play elec. bass and guitar too . . don't chase dots as well as I should but I speak uh-duh chords . . .uhhh I'm kinda partial to the Carnegie Deli even though it is rather expensive, one 'o their samiches is like two meals . . .but I bet Ben's is just as good . . .
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db

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 7:36 pm    
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Like an "anything goes" jam!
I like it!
Could an "instructor" be there too?


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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2005 7:55 pm    
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Oh, yeah, sure you say it's "open to pedal players" but din't you hide this thread in the "No Peddlers" section where you hoped none o' them pedal-mashin' messhuggies would find it, huh, din' cha, din' cha? Well! I might jus' hafta show up; ain't neva seen a real live hat shop before. (Done a hat-trick or two, but that's a differ'nt story...)
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2005 5:04 am    
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Jim, it would be a real pleasure if you were to attend.
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 22 Jul 2005 5:55 am    
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I don't think rhythm tracks would be the way to go because, a) they're generally pretty uninspiring


Depends on who recorded them ...

OK ... I'm in my high school teacher mode ... and this is just my opinion ...

I think the 1:30-5:30 time slot could be used very effectively ... if you combine Bill M.'s original idea (camp/workshop) ... with Howard's Sunday Jam.

Pick a "style" for a session ... say Sacred Steel ...

Put together 5 songs ... and then send out (or host them on a website) a few weeks ahead of time.

Include the original tunes (mp3)*, chord charts and either BIAB or recorded rhythm tracks for those tunes. No "tabs" ...

Then everyone will be prepared (if they do their homework) ...

The thing I have trouble with at "jams" is alot of time is wasted on ...

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What do you want to do next ... Do ya'll know this one ... etc.


Many feel uncomfortable if they don't know the tune ... and they end up just sittin' there watching one or two guys "run the show" ...

If it's just a "social get-together" ... thats one thing ...

But if it's really a "learning session" ... the more prepared everyone is (knowing exactly what will be played) ... the more folks will actually study-up, perform and take something home with them.

No "instructor" is needed ... although a "guest" in that style would be a major plus ...

You guys would be able to teach each other ... since each would use the chord charts and rhythm ... to come up with their own version and improvisations of the tune.

That way ... tunings wouldn't matter ... y'all just play in your favorite tunin' (thats why I said no tabs) ...

It's the "musical ideas" that would be shared ...

Teacher mode off ...


* since this is strictly an education use of copywritten material ... I believe the "fair use" clause would apply ... ???

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Peter Jacobs


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2005 6:18 am    
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You guys are killin' me. Ever since I moved from Westchester Cty. to Northern Virginia, the list of decent food that I can't get keeps growing:
Bagels (don't get me started)
Sandwiches (hot? cold? How about some flavor)
Subs (you call that bread? You call those cold cuts?)
Pizza (well, it's round and has sauce)
Fresh bread (something with a crust, please)
Matzo ball soup (fortunately, my wife takes pity on me -- hers is great)
Brisket (have to visit Mom more often)

Oh, sure, they have pale imitations around here, but where's the real food?!?!?!?

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