steel player for garland frady

Paul Wade · From: mundelein,ill

hello,
i have a old record 1973on countryside records of a singer by the name of garland frady. does anybody know the steel player on this
record

paul wade

[This message was edited by Paul Wade on 06 November 2003 at 07:46 AM.]

Rick Collins · From: Claremont , CA USA

...Red Rhodes????

Larry Bell · From: Englewood, Florida

My first guess would be Herb Steiner
Second guess would be Red Rhodes

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Glenn Suchan · From: Austin, Texas

Paul,

If it's on Countryside Records, it's Red Rhodes. The reason being, Countryside Records was a project started by Michael Nesmith during the time that he had The First National Band (and I believe, The Second National Band). Michael used this band, which included Red for all the recordings on that label. The entire catalog of Countryside Records consists of the Garland Frady LP and a solo album by Red Rhodes which is excellent (if you can find it). Herb was out in LA during those days. Maybe he can verify all of this. How 'bout it Herb....

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Paul Wade · From: mundelein,ill

thanks guys i found out it was j.g.o"rafferty
and red rhodes and j.d. maness

paul wade

msa-d10
evans amp

Herb Steiner · From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064

James O'Rafferty, Red, and Jay Dee would have been my choices as well. By that 1973 album, I had been in TX for over a year.

I never recorded with Garland except possibly a couple of publishing demos... the memory is dim. I did play many, many skull orchard gigs with him as part of "Garland Frady and the Outlaws," a band that included, among lots of others, Archie Francis, Stoney Bramith and Ted Lessler on drums, Ron Still and Wayne Moore on bass, and Jerry Cole and Boomer Castleman on guitar.

Garland now lives in Villa Rica GA., down the road from legendary Jumpin' Johnny Meeks.

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Jason Odd · From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia

Herb, nice to see your post here. The Cal's Corral CD is on it's way, I think I might have sent it via surface rather than air, I was a bit rushed and forgot to ask about it and sent everything out the same way.
I've been having trouble with aol as well, so my emails haven't been getting through.

Now, that chit-chat's done, I'll get to the topic.

Herbster's old boss was the one of two artists who actually had a release on Countryside.
It was ahouse band formed in 1972 after the Second National band folded.
The core group was Billy Graham (bass), Red Rhodes (steel), David Barry (piano), Danny Lane on drums and Bob Warford on guitar.
The bass role changed as time went on, Colin Cameron took it on, and there was a home studio set-up that Nesmith had, where other pickers like Marvin Caves, Byron Berline. J.G. O'Rafferty, Jay Dee, Bill and Stan House, writer Tom Mitchell and others worked whenever they could in the studio.
Steve Fromholtz had an unisued album, Tommy Holbrook, Linda Hargrove and others recorded there, Rafferty, ex-Monkee Peter Tork and others cut material.
They also cut one of Nesmith's last albums for RCA, but they weren't a tour band, in fact the reason they changed bass players is because the bass player's main gigs too them off on tour.
Bar Red, most of them were bar band players, and even worked in the clubs with each other. When they were together they used to sometimes go to the Pal' and jam or go to The Playtime on Sherman Way, near the Pal. The Playtime was really the hang-out for the Countryside Band.
Billed as Danny Lane & The Countryside, the core of the band played at the Playtime club with Garland Frady and Red Rhodes billed as special attractions on the Friday and Saturday nights. Once again, this depended on who was in town at the time.

To the album in question:

CM 101 - Pure Country - Garland Frady [1973]
Produced by Mike Nesmith arranged by Garland Frady. Reports are that Countryside Records sold 31,000 were sold (or pressed) before they shut down.

track by track credits:

THE BARROOMS HAVE FOUND YOU 2:55 Garland Frady & Tim Darby, Countryside Music / BMI
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford
Bass Bill Graham
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty

I STILL MISS SOMEONE 2:28 Johnny Cash, House of Cash / BMI
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford
Bass Marvin Cave
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty

TEACH YOUR CHILDREN 2:36 Graham Nash, Living Room Music / BMI
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford & Linda Hargrove
Bass Marvin Cave
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar Red Rhoads
Fiddle Byron Berline

ORANGE SILK BLOUSE 3:40 Dave Loggins, Antique & Leeds / ASCAP
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford
Bass Marvin Cave
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty
Fiddle Byron Berline

A GOOD LOVE IS LIKE A GOOD SONG 3:27 Casey Kelly, ??? / ASCAP
Lead Guitar Robert Warford
Rhythm Guitar Linda Hargrove
Bass Bill Graham
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty
Fiddle Byron Berline

I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW 2:56 Johnny Nash, CBS/Epic
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford
Bass Bill Graham
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. D. Maness

DRIVIN DOWN THAT LONESOME ROAD 2:56 Stan & Bill House, Countryside Music / BMI
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford
Bass Marvin Cave
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty
Fiddle Byron Berline

YOU BE YOU 2:50 Ruis Rabin, Window Music / BMI
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford & Linda Hargrove
Bass Marvin Cave
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty
Fiddle Byron Berline

SILVER MOON 3:23 Michael Nesmith, Screen Gems/Columbia Music / BMI
Lead Guitar Jay Lacy
Rhythm Guitar Robert Warford
Bass Marvin Cave
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty
Fiddle Byron Berline

BRAND NEW TENNESSEE WALTZ 3:18 Jesse Winchester, Floor Music / ASCAP
Lead Guitar Robert Warford
Rhythm Guitar Linda Hargrove
Bass Bill Graham
Drums Danny Lane
Piano David Barry
Steel Guitar J. G. O'Rafferty
Fiddle Byron Berline

SITTIN BY THE HIGHWAY This song was not on the original LP but was on the master and was reportedly written by the late Don Epperson...No more info... I think it's on Garland's CD reissue, which you can get through Garland.

The other Countryside release was
CM 102 - Velvet Hammer In A Cowboy Band - Red Rhodes [1973]
direct quotes On another note, you asked about the lineup on the Rhodes album...here it is: David Barry played piano on all tracks, and Danny Lane played drums on all tracks, and of course, Red played steel on all.
Here is the song list: 1. Crippled Lion 2. Poinciana 3. Lothario in "A" 4. Jay's Tune 5. Dana's Waltz 6. Lunar Nova Three Songs In A Row: 7. Lonesome 8. Great American Thunder Turkey 9. Steel Guitar Waltz.
There were three bass players on the album. Bill Graham played on #'s 6-9. Jim Stallings played on # 2. Colin Cameron erroneously identified as "Colin Camero") played on all other tracks. Colin was the bass player at the time for Paul Williamsl. Billy was with Glen Campbell at the time.
On guitars, Jay Lacy and Bob Warford played the entire album, credited as "Dr. Robert K. Warford", as he was finishing a Ph.D. at the time, but Bob wanted to be known as Bob Warford, or Bobby Warford.
Red reissued a different mix and slight re-recording of this in the mid 1970s.

A related album is Ian Matthews' album Valley Hi (Elektra 75061/ EKS-75061) 1973
recorded what is probably his most overtly country album to date, 1973's Valley Hi. The record opens with a pair of tracks - his own "Keep on Sailing" and the traditional "Old Man at the Mill" - that had been scheduled to appear on the second release by his former band Plainsong, which Elektra chose to shelve. Matthews then proceeds to cover rarities by Randy Newman and Richard Thompson, (Shady Lies), as well as chestnuts by Jackson Browne (These Days) and country legend Don Gibson.
Elsewhere, he delivers terrific versions of Nesmith's tale of friendship turned to love, "Propinquity," and Steve Young's now classic "7 Bridges Road." Matthews' excellent rendition of the latter set the standard for the song, which became a hit in the early '80s for the Eagles, using an identical arrangement. He also added one new original, along with two (including "Keep on Sailing" and "Save Your Sorrows") from the aborted Plainsong release, all three of which rank with his best. Though he has since stated his dissatisfaction with the album, Valley Hi nonetheless remains among Ian Matthews' finest.
produced by Michael Nesmith
recorded at The Countryside Studio, Los Angeles
Ian Matthews - guitar, vocals
Danny Lane - drums
Billy Graham - bass, fiddle
Jay Lacy - guitar
Bobby Warford - guitar
Michael Nesmith - guitar
O.J."Red"Rhodes - steel, dobro
David Barry - keyboards
Byron Berline - fiddle

There were a couple of tracks that did not end up on the album.
The outake songs were "Just In Case" and "Tried So Hard", the Gene Clark song, which actually did appear on Ian's next album, "Some Days You Eat The Bear...", but radically remixed.
As mentioned, one track on the Valley Hi album had nobody of the Countryside band on it except Warford, Save Your Sorrows was recorded by Ian while he was with Plainsong, and they added his pullstring guitar part.

They were an awesome band, but Countryside got shut down in the shuffle between Elektra, Asylum, Warner and Atlantic REcords merger in 1973.

Herb Steiner · From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064

Jason, the CD arrived last week. Muchas gracias, mi amigo.

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Jason Odd · From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia

Cool, how did you find it?

I like the album, I'd say it came out around 1963, but most of the tracks that Cal licensed are a few years older.

Back to the Countryside material, Tom Bradshaw still has vinyl copies of the second version of Red's Countryside album with detailed sleeve notes from an interview with Red.
Other than that Mathews, and Nesmith's albums with the Countryside Band are the only ones to achieve CD release.

Although as mentioned before, Garland Frady has put out a CD copy of his album with an extra track and has had it remastered.

Charlie Vaughn · From: West Union, South Carolina

I play steel guitar for Garland Frady from time to time. He is a great singer and entertainer and I enjoy working with him Yes, he is living in Villa Rica,GA and he is doing well. He had some health problem but doing fine now. I called him today and told about this post and we talked about his albums and the steel players. He said you guys were right. He has re-released some his albums on CD.

[This message was edited by Charlie Vaughn on 10 November 2003 at 08:28 PM.]

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