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Lawrence Sullivan

 

From:
Granite City, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2003 7:01 am    
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I have a Carter SD10, 3 pedals, and the pedals sit to the left of the knee levers(pedals are not straight in line in front of the knee levers) which to me is a little akward position to sit in. How hard would it be to move the pedals a couple holes to the right and put the A pedal on the right and the C pedal on the left???? Is this something I might be able to do myself or a shop job??? Or would I be better off just leaving it as is?? I am just trying to learn to play the pedal steel
Thanks for any info
Larry
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2003 7:21 am    
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Lawrence---I've done extensive work under my Carter in the 4 years I've had it, changing setups, adding levers and customizing it to fit my body & style--this is all about personalizing it; not to correct any problems. What you want to do can be done at home BUT it is pretty serious stuff you are proposing. Switching A & C (going to the Day setup) is not difficult. Moving all your pedals will involve removing the back apron and repositioning some cross shafts as well as doing work on your pedal rack. You will need new pull rods since you will changing the distance from cross shaft to changer. If you are real handy and if you seriously study up on your guitar, both your axe and the Carter website tutorials, you can do it but I'd think real hard before starting as to whether you are going to get stuck with your guitar in pieces and nothing to play. I know myself and I'd do it. But I don't know you, your patience, or your skills.
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C Dixon

 

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Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2003 7:59 am    
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Lawrence,

If this is a standard Carter PSG, the pedals are supposed to be located to the left of the knee levers. Here is why.

Most players sit closer to the changer end than they do the nut end. Also, there legs and feet are aligned at an oblique angle to the back of the guitar such that; the knees are closer to the changer than the feet.

Because of this ergonomic fact, just about all pedal steel guitar manufacturers locate LKL between pedal 2 and 3 (closer to 3 usually) AND LKR between pedals 5 and 6 (or where they would be IF you had them). This makes the knee levers, as you say, offset from the pedals; particularly on a 3 pedal guitar.

I srongly urge you to get used to it. It will come I promise.

May Jesus lead you right in all you do,

carl
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Lawrence Sullivan

 

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Granite City, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2003 10:30 am    
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Thank you Joe and Carl for taking time to respond. This is the information I was seeking. I think I will probably leave well enough alone for the present and see if I can adapt to the positioning.
This is all completely new to me and although I am pretty handy at mechanical things, I also feel there was a reasons for the pedals, etc put in the order they are.Thats why I asked before grabbing my tools and letting the parts fly.
Thanks again and keep up the great music for all us wantabee musicians to listen to.
Larry
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John Fabian


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Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2003 12:15 pm    
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Try sitting at the steel so your RIGHT leg is straight through the 2 RIGHT KL's. This will center the center of your body at around fret 15 to 17. When you do this everything else should fit properly.

John Fabian
Please call me if you have any questions.
972 288-9100 Carter Tech Info
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Moon in Alaska

 

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Kasilof, Alaska * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2003 6:38 pm    
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I agree with John.....
All pedal steels that I have ever played,
including my Carter S-10, the pedals are
located just right when I sit with my body centered at the 15th fret.
This position helps on rolling your ankle
for the A pedal only, the b pedal only and both, the A + B or the B + C.
Moon in Alaska

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==Carter S-10==
<< Old Fender-400 >>
== Evans FET 500 Custom LV ==

CLICK HERE FOR MOON'S ALASKA WEB SITE



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Lawrence Sullivan

 

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Granite City, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 12 Oct 2003 8:19 pm    
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Thanks John and Moon for the tips. Tonight during practice I sat as far to the right as I could with my right leg straight between the right knee levers as John suggested and things did go better but I am still as akward as a hog on ice but hoping it will improve with time.
Moon I sure wish I could visit Alaska sometime what with all that great fishing and hunting up there but I spent most of my life traveling the South making a living hauling new GM products.
Thanks again for all the help fellows.
Larry
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Moon in Alaska

 

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Kasilof, Alaska * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 13 Oct 2003 11:45 am    
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Thanks, Larry for the kind words !!

We should probable have this thread in the
Pedal Steel...Papa Bob will move it if he thinks he should !!

You are correct...Be careful of your position
every time you play and it will come with time....
Another thing that is really critical...Pedal
height...To get a comfortable single pedal
without moving your heel...the pedals must be
adjusted correctly....
I use the Emmons set up, my A pedal is adjusted 1/2 inch higher than my B pedal.
My C pedal is adjusted at the same height
as my A pedal. For me..this gives an easy
roll of my ankle for single pedals or combinations.
All I can say is this is the way it works
for me...

Moon in Alaska

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<< Moon Mullin in Alaska >>
==Carter S-10==
<< Old Fender-400 >>
== Evans FET 500 Custom LV ==

CLICK HERE FOR MOON'S ALASKA WEB SITE



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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 13 Oct 2003 12:24 pm    
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Moved to 'Pedal Steel' section
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