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Topic: Merle Travis Steeler? |
Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 11 Aug 2003 12:51 pm
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I was recently listening to some of my old Merle Travis recordings, ca. 1950s. The tune "Sweet Temptation" has a steel break in it that sounds like an E-13th tuning.?? Does someone know who played steel on Merle's recordings in the 1950s?
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Smiley Roberts
From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075
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Posted 11 Aug 2003 2:00 pm
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Don't know who played steel w/ him in the 50's but,I have an album by Merle,("Travis" Capitol records # ST 1664) that features Curly Chalker on that song. (circa,late 60's-early 70's)
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Jody Carver
From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 11 Aug 2003 4:09 pm
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NOEL BOGGS |
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Roy Ayres
From: Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Aug 2003 4:40 pm
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Jody is right. Noel played mostly on an A6 tuning (similar to the modern C6 without pedals) but, as I recall, he had the old "C#min7" tuning on one neck -- which was actually an E6 with the second string raised from a B note to a 6th or C#. Jody, correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Mike Sweeney
From: Nashville,TN,USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2003 6:02 pm
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Smiley,
The album "Travis" was put out in 1961 or '62.
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Jody Carver
From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 11 Aug 2003 7:33 pm
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Roy
You are 100% correct. It pays to get old and
know all about this dont it? |
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Roy Ayres
From: Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Aug 2003 7:18 am
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Jody:
I don't really know, but if I run into any old people I'll ask them about it.
Roy |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 12 Aug 2003 9:01 am
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Hate to be a wise @$$ and drop a bomb on Roy and Jody, two of the youngest old men among us but the steel player on the original version of Sweet Temptation is Phil Marx. Me myself, I'm too young to know it, I read it in the book so it must be true
Actually Jody is correct too, Noel played on many Travis' sessions in the 40's, as did Joaquin Murphy, Pete Martinez and Speedy West in addition to Marx. Dickie Stubbs, Leodie Jackson and Speedy played on most 50's sessions, but there was a session with Freddie Tavares on steel too! [This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 12 August 2003 at 10:09 AM.] [This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 12 August 2003 at 10:10 AM.] |
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Roy Ayres
From: Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Aug 2003 11:33 am
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Jussi:
I, also, am too young to know first hand; my parents told me. (And, I think Jody is about six months younger than me -- although he ain't as handsome.)
We both knew it was Marx -- we were just testing to see if anyone would catch it. |
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Doug Seymour
From: Jamestown NY USA (deceased)
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Posted 12 Aug 2003 1:16 pm
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I must be as old as some of you guys in on this one, but I didn't have a clue who it was playing with Merle. I had those oldies on 78s in the 40s and some time within the last year or so someone gave me a copy of those same tunes with Chalker on them. How really nice! I could usually tell it was Boggs when he was playing his trade mark A6th style, or thought I could, but I didn't know about the other necks? You can learn something on this forum every day! Great! [This message was edited by Doug Seymour on 12 August 2003 at 02:17 PM.] |
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Jody Carver
From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 12 Aug 2003 7:07 pm
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Roy
I went to see your Dr,You know the plastic surgeon?,he told me in order to give you a face lift,he used a fork lift |
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Smiley Roberts
From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075
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Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Aug 2003 12:11 am
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I believe Merle did most of his recordings in California, so I did think about Noel while listening to these songs. The steel parts just didn't sound like Noel Boggs to me. I wasn't aware that so many steel players recorded with Merle over the years.
Roger
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nick allen
From: France
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Carl West
From: La Habra, CA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Aug 2003 5:52 am
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Speedy West did many of Merle's things. Speedy also appeared in some ols ki-a-scopes
Merle did.
Merle use to sub for Speedy on the old KXLA radio show from the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena, CA. when speedy had recording dates.
Carl West
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Carl West
From: La Habra, CA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Aug 2003 5:55 am
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Mercy,
I need to re-type that one, too early here !
Carl West
Merle recorded at Capitol Records in Hollywood. |
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Jody Carver
From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 13 Aug 2003 12:35 pm
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Hey Nick
You still hangin out with those Frenchmen?
C'mon home we need you. |
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Al Johnson
From: Sturgeon Bay, WI USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2003 3:15 pm
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Phil Marx played on many Capitol recordings in the mid 40s. Wesley Tuttle used him on many sessions, as did Tex Ritter and more at that time.
In the Merle Travis Boxset, on Bear Family they of course list all the musicians, Merle always used one of the top steel guitar players at all times. The best used the best. Enjoy. Al Johnson |
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nick allen
From: France
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Posted 14 Aug 2003 12:15 am
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Jody -
Frenchmen? Fuggedaboudit!! It's the FrenchWOMEN I'm hanging out with!!!
To get back on course - does anyone know if the "Travis" album with Curly Chalker is available on CD?
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Jason Odd
From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 14 Aug 2003 12:30 am
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Smiley, going by that cat# number, the 'Travis' LP should be from around 1961-'62, pretty wild stuff for it's day. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 14 Aug 2003 2:44 am
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Unless there's a Japanese cd-release, "Travis"-album has not been released on cd yet ( which is a shame ). |
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