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Topic: Intro to Nite Life |
Harold Jack Baker
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Ladora, Iowa, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2002 5:08 am |
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I'm frustrated beyond belief. I found the page with a segmen of Nite Life with Buddy playing the famous intro and break. Now I can't find it again. I know it exsists and I stupidly forgot to record the location. When I get frustrated with my steel playing I hear that intro and how beautiful a steel can sound and I get back to my steel. I also have tried to find a C.D. with that song but to no avail. Harold "Texas Jack" Baker Sho-Bud Pro, M.S.A Custom, Fender Telecaster & Vocal for 60 years
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Jim Vogan
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Ohio City, Ohio 45874
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John Hawkins
From:
Onalaska, Tx. on Lake Livingston * R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Sep 2002 9:58 am
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Harold ,
Contact Herby Wallace Productions . I think there is a link here on the forum .
He has a cassette / ( and possibly a C.D.) tabed out with Night Life and three other songs-- San Antonio Rose,Miles and Miles Of Tex and another one I can't remember the title . It has vocals with or with out steel parts . It is a part of his instruction courses he offers . I assume he still has this one I'm refering to .
Hope this helps .
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Louie Hallford
From:
denison tx
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Posted 16 Sep 2002 8:29 pm
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Harold, Jeff Newman had a nice intro for Night Life. Surprisingly his version is on E9. Just learning that short version opened up a lot af possibilities for me on E9 in regards to C6 voicings.
It's a lot easier to believe the possiblilities on the E9 neck when I found many of the 6th sounds are there.
Thanks again to Jeff and Jeffran Music |
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Bill Ford
From:
Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 19 Sep 2002 3:06 pm
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Louie,
Was Nite Life E9 in a single song course or one of a multiple song course and how much?
Thanks
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Louie Hallford
From:
denison tx
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Posted 19 Sep 2002 9:03 pm
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Bill,the first time I saw it was in the seminar material at one of Jeff' St Louis seminars.
I saw it somewhere later. If I recall it was published by Jeff in a public format such as a a newsletter or magazine.
I don't recall him having anything tabbed on it but the intro. You have stirred my interest. Now I have to go dig it up and learn it again as I always "attempt" the c6 version instead of the E9.
I suspect many steel players(speaking of amateurs like myself) would set up and take notice at your playing such a nice intro on E9 . I don't recall seeing it tried but a couple of times ,neither time was it of interest to me until I heard Jeffs version.[This message was edited by louie hallford on 19 September 2002 at 10:15 PM.] |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 6:20 am
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Try these 'shapes'...
(In D major)
10th fret: 7,6,5
13th: 9,7,6
8th: 9,7,6 (with A&B pedals)
11th: 9,7,6,5 (lower 5th a half-step)
Getting the pick-up notes is easy (I can't post 'tab'!) with a number of options - this may lack the warmth of the 'C' neck, but it gets the job done....
(edited for spelling!)
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Roger Rettig (NTSGA #147): Emmons LGIII(8+ , Fender Stringmaster (0+0) and a Zumsteel D10 on order!!!
[This message was edited by Roger Rettig on 20 September 2002 at 07:21 AM.] |
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John Vaughan
From:
San Jose, California, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 10:54 am
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Re: Roger's idea for Night Life on E9
If you have a LKV (B to Bb), play
11th fret: 10,9,8,7,6,5
slide to 10th fret, releasing LKV as you slide. Pretty chords.
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Bill Ford
From:
Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 11:23 am
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Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 12:21 pm
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Hi, John
I do add other strings to those grips, and I slide down to the 10th as you've suggested - I'd choose to 'block' the 9th string, though, and not have the 'seventh' note in that last chord; I hear that last change as a pure 'D(add 9)' chord.
For another 'colour', take the second chord (the F13) and add the 5th string to the 'grip', raising it on the 'A' pedal then let the pedal off.
Do the same with the fourth chord, but this time lower a further half-step using the 5th string 'lower' (wherever you have it - it's my RKL) and resolve by sliding from 11 to 10 as John's suggested.
There's a bunch of nice variations on all of these - my previous 'post' was just the basics....
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Roger Rettig (NTSGA #147): Emmons LGIII(8+, Fender Stringmaster (0+0) and a Zumsteel D10 on order!!!
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 4:49 pm
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Hey guys,
Try this out. I think this is what you're looking for for the intro. You need the knee lever that lowers string 9 from D to C#. Hope you guys have that pull. If not, there are others ways to get the notes, but I strongly suggest that anyone that wants to play this kind of stuff on E9 have that pull. Otherwise, you'll be tearing your hair out. Regards, Jeff.
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[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 21 September 2002 at 05:06 AM.] |
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 4:51 pm
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| BTW, "R" is half tone raise, and "L" is half tone lower. Any questions, please ask. |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 7:43 pm
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Jeff
I actually 'posted' what I was '...looking for...'
I used to play this in a similar fashion to your 'tab' (with the exception of the playing second pick-up on frets 5 and 6), and, while it's more literally 'correct, I rejected it in favour of my later one; the fact that the string 'grips' are essentially the same throughout allows for a more fluid and 'sweeping' effect.
In general though, I wholeheartedly agree with you about the 9th string 'lower' - it really opens the E9 tuning up. I feel it's as important as any change on there!
I also confess that my version of the 'N.L.' intro is, after the embellishments I suggested, very much my personal 'take' on the subject; they're great 'changes' and it's hard to resist extending them a bit. Although mine is 'missing' some lower end, I think it has some room for 'mobility' with the 5th string at the top of the inversions...[This message was edited by Roger Rettig on 21 September 2002 at 03:44 AM.] |
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2002 9:28 pm
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The many uses of the 9th string is one of the reasons I'm going back to a double neck.  |
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 21 Sep 2002 4:14 am
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| I editted the 8th fret chord. Ideally, if the chord could be played with only the 4 notes, it would be best. But if you can't effectively sweep the 3 notes without hitting the 8th string (which you don't want), then either 3 note voicing (strings 5,7,9 or 5,6,9 will do. I hear the lead note (an "A" note) in each of the four chords in the intro, and at fret 8, it's coming from string 5. One other option is to pick a 3-note chord, and pluck the 4th note quickly in the same motion, while the other notes are still ringing. This is done all the time on C6 in order to take advantage of all the multi-note voicings, as well as when playign arpeggios. [This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 21 September 2002 at 05:18 AM.] |
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 21 Sep 2002 4:20 am
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| Oh, and I'll head b0b off at the pass , and say that if you play with 4 picks, you can get the 4-notes with one pluck. |
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John Vaughan
From:
San Jose, California, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2002 7:29 pm
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Hi Roger,
Yeah, the 7th doesn't go with the tune...I just like the way it sounds. BTW, I've found a nice program that allows you to copy wav or mp3 files, edit out the steel (or whatever) part and slow it down without changing the pitch (digital is wonderful). You can download a free month at http://www.syntrillium.com/ . Go to Downloads and get Cool Edit 2000. A bit pricey to buy but sure helps when the pickin' is quick.
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John Vaughan
From:
San Jose, California, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2002 8:46 pm
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Jeff,
One more permutation on this that I found (if you can stand it). Rather than the chord you play on the 8th fret, simply move the chord from fret 6 to 5 while releasing the lowered 4th string and then play the chord you have on the 4th fret. These are the same chords (or very near) as in One Note Samba by Antonio Carlos Jobim. Thanks for the inspiration.
JV[This message was edited by John Vaughan on 23 September 2002 at 10:16 PM.] |
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 24 Sep 2002 6:07 am
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| That's true. The "One Note Samba" sound is a classic jazz turn around. In the key of D, that's F#m7, F7, Em11, Eb7#11, with an "A" note as your lead voice. You would play the Em11 chord at the 5th fret, just as you said. However, the "Nightlife" turnaround uses a Bbmaj7 in place of the Em11, so I tabbed it at the 8th fret. Of course, The Bbmaj7 is just a tri-tone sub for the Em11, which means it should sound perfectly right in this setting, which it does. [This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 25 September 2002 at 12:51 PM.] |
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Louie Hallford
From:
denison tx
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Posted 24 Sep 2002 12:42 pm
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Harold,& Bill,I am gald to see a lot of posts on an E9 version of the Night Life kick off.
I was not being stingy in not sharing the "kick off" tab,I was just concerned that my materials were probably copyrighted as part of Jeffs lessons and did not want to betray their use.
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 24 Sep 2002 1:31 pm
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| BTW, I have no idea how Jeff Newman plays this intro. I worked this out based on how it is played on C6. It is strictly my interpretation. .. Jeff |
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