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Topic: Here's one for Rick A. |
Dan Sawyer
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Studio City, California, USA
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2005 11:13 am |
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That's a Sho-bud, right? The seller thinks it's one-of-a-kind. I guess he's right in a way because the humbucking pickup (a Bill Lawrence 705?) isn't original equipment. I think it would be worth more with the original pickup.
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2005 11:15 am
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I saw that one ... and the one folks are "funnin' with" Richard S. about (I think  )
This one ... sure looks "familiar" ... 
No not cause of the fretboard ... which is obviously off a PSG (check where the 24th fret is) 
That headstock ... hmmmmmm ...
It is cast ... die cast not sand ... hmmmm
Don't wanna get into any of that mess though ...
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Denny Turner
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Oahu, Hawaii USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2005 6:32 am
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Aw c'mon Rick; What's a little mess; It'll wipe right off yer boots!
My first impression is that it looks like it's made from an unmachined surplus steel with a bit of cutting & shaving and a long scale fretboard put on a shortscale steel.
?????  ?????
Aloha,
DT~
[This message was edited by Denny Turner on 21 April 2005 at 09:06 PM.] |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2005 7:03 am
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You got the "surplus" right ...
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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2005 11:11 am
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| I emailed the owner for some measurements. Scale is 22" and the fretboard is a 24" scale........hhmmmmmm????? |
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Dan Sawyer
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Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2005 11:23 am
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| No kidding, the scale is 22" and the fretboard is a 24"? What a mess. Hey, maybe a blind player should buy that. |
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Gerald Ross
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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2005 11:45 am
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All you have to do is subtract .0012 from each fret while you are playing.
When reverse slanting add an additional .0000243 or subtract .0000245634 for a forward slant unless it's on adjacent strings, then you divide by the inverse of Pi.
Blue Hawaii anyone?
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'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 21 April 2005 at 12:55 PM.] |
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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2005 2:36 pm
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| I emailed the seller and he did the right thing by posting on the ad that the guitar has a longer scale fretboard than it should. |
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Denny Turner
From:
Oahu, Hawaii USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2005 1:58 pm
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Curiosity has got me on this one.
After some research of SGF archives it is my opinion that this steel doesn't represent the "mess" I had first intuitively thought it might. First, I'm not absolutely sure that it is a modified surplus SBFP steel; It is possible that it was independently cast or cut from billet. As long as it doesn't have a brand or person's name attached to it, then even being built from a surplus steel would not present a problem; Not unlike building a guitar from surplus left over after a guitar company went belly up, ...as long as brand-name is not counterfeited to it.
When laser CAD / CNC technology was in it's infancy (replacing varigraph duplication), there were many operators excited about duplicating things from billet ...expecially at military bases / contractors where billet stock was plentiful ...at property disposal yards for dirt cheap scrap salvage if not in the shop. (Coin counterfeiting was problematic and sparked a nation-wide crack down by the secret service and FBI). In the early 1980's I had an associate who worked at Pearl Harbor navy shipyard, who said he could cut me an aluminum frypan "slide guitar" if I wanted; And like an ignorant dummy I said Thanks but no thanks (since he had just been talking about the counterfeiting investigations at the shipyard).
With that said, I have (purely / only) an inquisitive / learning interest in trying to determine if this steel is made from a surplus SB steel casting; Or if it is independently cast or cut from billet. I would appreciate anyone's opinions / suggestions / etc. who might see clues or something definitive.
Clues?: From what I see I am inclined to think this is a SB surplus steel with it's headstock perimeter shaved, nut modified, pickup window widened, a longscale early SBFP surplus fretboard applied (it fitting being a strong clue that the steel is SB surplus) and a bridge I've not seen before that's different enough to not be modified surplus (& voila, the strings hanging out beyond sides of the upscale end of the neck). The Seller reported that it doesn't have a serial number stamped in it anywhere, and he declined to reveal the "estate" it came from but said the family was not famous.
Any observations, rebuttals, etc will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Aloha,
DT~
[This message was edited by Denny Turner on 25 April 2005 at 01:43 AM.] |
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