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Topic: Road steeler vs. Session steeler Pt. 2 |
slick
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Posted 11 Jul 2001 5:13 pm |
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Paul's post so far has had 112 replies,only one from him.Several were mine in a failed
attempt to be funny.I dont know Paul but ill
bet ya that he never intended his post to create a book on how to bitch,i could be wrong but i doubt it.Did ya Paul???Puncuation
smuncuation who cares?Im not really surprised
that he doesnt post here a lot.Every time Paul or Buddy post something here a lot of you guys start kissin ass or badmouthing somebody.I have never done any recording,
never played in a road band but i know ass kissin and badmouthin when i see it.Theres a lot of that going on here.
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Jody Carver
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Posted 11 Jul 2001 5:19 pm
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Peter Dollard
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Posted 11 Jul 2001 5:31 pm
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| The only reason I am responding is Paul's reference to not playing golf or whatever to become successful. The first place I heard that idea was from an interview with Bobby Black after he returned from Nashville in the late seventies. Maybe it was in Guitar Player but they asked him about his studio experience and he said something about Pete Drake telling him to be more sociable out of studio with the other musicians. Since then I have heard the "Golf" reference many times in many versions. Maybe someone could look it up....P.D |
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slick
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Posted 11 Jul 2001 5:50 pm
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Sorry Jody i didnt mean to use that word badmouthing,just got carried away for a moment.
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Bobbe Seymour
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Posted 11 Jul 2001 7:25 pm
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Slick, what do you mean, attempt at being funny? You are hillarious, as are many others. Jody, Retcop, Les Campbell,Wierach,you know who you are, this is a funny, funny place. And slightly educational, every couple months! Is this a great forum or what!
Bobbe-----(yes Earl Erb, I think your the greatest guitar player in the world,but then theres Greg Galbreath and, and and,just kidding Earl,Youv'e been at the top my
play list for 32 years!)
Bobbeeeeeeeee |
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Earl Erb
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Posted 11 Jul 2001 7:45 pm
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Thanks Bobbe....I thought that comment would get your attention. Take care.  |
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Jody Carver
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 4:13 am
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John Floyd
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 4:54 am
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| Hey Jody,just one of the best dam guitar players that ever hit the streets of Nashville. I've been on this forum for almost two years and you have to ask? |
Earl
You can only make nickels, Dimes and quarters on the streets of Nashburg.
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Jody Carver
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 5:44 am
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Paul Graupp
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Jody Carver
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 6:26 am
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Hi Paul Thank for the nice things you sent,
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Paul Graupp
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 6:31 am
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Jody,  |
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John Floyd
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 6:41 am
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| I spent mine on girls and guitars,,,mostly girls,,,,the girls are gone |
Jody
I did too. I figure thats a blessing in disquise, The Girls are much older now, a little heavier and Those lovely flowers of womanhood are most likely wilted by now.
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Kirk P Dighton
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 11:33 am
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What a great new topic! I have been playing steel for almost 2 years and I posted a topic regarding choking up under the gun. Paul Franklin responded ,that he thought I was a good player and he had never heard me. I knew with that statement that he is a great human being. I front a band in Iowa, mostly western swing, ballrooms and have for about 17 years. I had a steel player by the name of Don Goettsch who has since passed on, and was a great friend to many musicians. He said that he stayed with this band the longest of any other band he has ever played with. When I asked why, he said,"..there aren't any a$$holes in this group. That has been my philosophy, no attitudes or pomposity (spelling) We are busy and successful and still friends.
Thanks for being a great bunch of human beings. Hey Paul, I'm having a jam session August 18th at Troy Mills Iowa. Come on up! I'll bet you never played there before.
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Jody Carver
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 12:07 pm
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Gene Jones
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 12:54 pm
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Jody Carver
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 1:51 pm
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Jody Carver
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 1:53 pm
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Dan Tyack
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Posted 12 Jul 2001 7:48 pm
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In terms of what road steel players versus session players, here's what I know. I have never worked a union master session in Nashville, but the scale gigs I used to do in LA were somewhere around $250 for a 3 hour session. I imagine the Nashville scale has to be higher than that now (come on, you Nashville guys, break out the union book and let us know). If you do 3 double scale gigs a day 5 days a week, you would make some serious money. But no $500k a year, I would imagine. The top session guitar player here in Seattle makes about $80-100k a year, but he does sequencing, arranging, and a lot of turd polishing. I would imagine that would be a good income for most session players in any city (forget the A++ team). I make literally dozens of dollars a week in sessions.....
In terms of road gigs, it's all over the map. Ron Wood has got to make a lot more than a million a year whenever he drags his steel on the road with the Rolling Stones. When I was in Nashville in the late 70s, I was lucky to get $100 a night with an opry act. I have heard that it isn't a whole lot better these days. I would expect that most road players earn somewhere between that amount. I doubt whether many Nashville road players earn more than a couple of grand a week on the road, but I could be wrong.
Anybody who does this thing for the money needs to have his head examined, anyway.
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Jody Carver
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Posted 13 Jul 2001 12:41 pm
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Larry Miller
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Posted 13 Jul 2001 3:30 pm
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| .......AND THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVERAFTER. THE END. |
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Larry Miller
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Posted 13 Jul 2001 3:41 pm
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Pat Burns
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Posted 13 Jul 2001 5:30 pm
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...Gimme Just One More Last Chance...
...Hit The Road, Jack...
...Never Can Say Goodbye...
...Good Night, Irene...
...Wait A Minute, Mr. Postman...
...Return To Sender...
...You Got To Know When To Hold 'Em, Know When To Fold 'Em... |
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Jody Carver
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Posted 14 Jul 2001 4:06 am
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Hey BC
There is "NO END" other than a "frankfurter" it has "two ends"
To add to Pat's nice lineup of tunes,,,this will be "Always" & "From Here To Eternity"
I sold my computer,,,so I wont have to watch this anymore,,,I bought a pocket radio & will listen to Dr.Laura from now on,,,
Oh Dr. Laura,,,,I have a "dilemma" I belong to the Steel Guitar Forum & ya know what???
some guy said " I hope your dog dies",,,and Dr. Laura replies,,,,Oh I'll send you a free
"T" shirt,,,,,,Hi Pat,,,,,Hi Gene.... |
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Gene Jones
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Posted 14 Jul 2001 6:18 am
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