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Topic: wierd audio play back |
Antolina
From: Dunkirk NY
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Posted 25 May 2001 1:45 pm
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ok here's my problem. When I try down loading sound files from the forum the play back is halting and sounds like a bad needle on an old 45. I re installed media player, defragged and it still happens. Here's the wierd part, when I access Jeff Newman's site his sample bits are clear as a bell. Any suggestions?......RC |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 25 May 2001 2:21 pm
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The speed of the originating server and that internet link, and the speed of your own link has a lot to do with "breaking up". If either end is relatively slow (or both ends) it can cause the break up. Congestions (slowdowns - bottlenecks) within the web can also cause this. It's the same with downloading files - some sites download relatively fast where others are very slow.
Actually they are not breaking up, it's just your player will buffer a small part of the file and then start playing, but before it has another segment of the file, it has played the first part so it has to wait for the next part before it can start playing it.
I've even noticed that on my high speed DSL link with some sites.
The next time you get a slow site - and it can be any site not just the ones that some of the forumites use - try downloading the file and then playing it from your hard drive. It won't break up then. Instead of left clicking on the file to play, RIGHT click on the file and select save target as and then download it.
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Antolina
From: Dunkirk NY
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Posted 25 May 2001 3:39 pm
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Good suggesstion Jack but I don't get the option to save. Normally it starts the download, picks the player and plays. OK Now what? and that still doesn't explain how Jeff's clips are always clear. Shouldn't the problem be consistent across the board?..Thanks |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 25 May 2001 4:07 pm
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No. There are many factors and most of it has to do with the speed of the server (how busy it is) at the originating station and the commuications links between that server and your PC. There are many variables there and as I said in my previous post it depends on the bandwidth (speed) of the internet links.
For example, and we'll assume the orignating station's server is never busy and runs at it's maximum speed, if you access a server that has a DSL link to the WWW (web) it can be at several speeds but if it's like the forum it is at 768Kbps on both send and recieve links (768Kb is the max and it is never at the max). At the ISP it gets switched through a server (which can cause slowdowns depending on the capacity of that server) to the ISP's link to the WWW. The ISP could have a T1 (1.44 Mbs) or a T3 (45Mbs) (or they could have ATM or Frame Relay). We'll assume in this case that the ISP has a T3 to the WWW. Now, the T3's bandwidth is shared with all it's customers and depending on what is happening at any given moment the loading on the T3 may only be 50% or in busy times it may be over 100%, which means the speed varies at any given moment. There are some with "dedicated" lines but most use the shared links. Once it gets to the WWW "Cloud" it can be routed many different directions and the loading of the slowest link will determine the overall speed. Once it gets to your ISP, it is sent to your PC and if you have a dial-up modem it will be at speeds less than 53Kb (53Kb is the maximum DOWNLINK speed by FCC regulations and 33.6Kb UPLINK is the FCC max). And the actual data throughput speed will always be much less. Back to the original example, since it is at 768Kb it presents data to the WWW at a relatively fast speed and most of the slowdown is on the link between your ISP and your PC.
However, some server sites are only dial-up modem links to the ISP, which means their uplink is less than 33.6Kb (compared to the other example's 768Kb). It gets routed through the WWW at the same relative speed as any other data stream and the initial data reaches your PC at the same speed as the 768Kb site, but after the initial packet of data, subsequent packets (blocks) are sent at a much slower speed so there will be pauses between data packets (or the "skipping" sound).
Now, the last little goodie. Your modem "connect" speed is only that, the speed that the modem connected to the ISP's modem at. The two modems are constantly "handshaking" and negotiating the data speed at any given moment and the average data throughput speed is really the only valid reference parameter.
This probably gets into more than you wanted to know, but the only way I knew to try and 'splain it - and I only brushed the surface.
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Antolina
From: Dunkirk NY
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Posted 25 May 2001 4:23 pm
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Thanks Jack. I'll give it a try and see what happens. Thanks....you'll hear from me if I get into trouble (grin). |
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Antolina
From: Dunkirk NY
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Posted 25 May 2001 4:41 pm
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Jack,
I went to abraham's site, punched in the steel mp3. a box popped in with saving location and began downloading?. I was unable to stop it. I had to listen to the stacatto all the way thru and there never came an option to save in as much as I got delayed responses to any commands. any way around this? |
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Jim Smith
From: Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 25 May 2001 5:08 pm
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Right click (click with the right button) on the file and scroll down the menu to "Save Target As". Select that with your left button, then choose the directory on your PC to put it in. |
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