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Charles French
From: Ms.
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Posted 21 Nov 2004 4:59 pm
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So where can I find some swing dobro. I have a little of Mike Auldridge. I'd really like to hear what can be done on a six string. Mike plays some tunes on an eight string. |
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 21 Nov 2004 5:43 pm
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There was a local NYC group, The Central Park Sheiks who released one record album in 1976.
Bob Hipkens played dobro, trumpet, and sang. Trumpet was his main instrument but he played a lot of dobro on this album. His playing was atypical because of his horn phrasing and he could really swing, which he did extremely well. Honey Suckle Rose and Cherokee are just two of the songs that have some real swinging work on them.
It's 18 years later and I can't say that I've heard his style since.
I've pasted a link where you can scroll down and see the album. It's a Japanese issue and you can purchase it.
His tuning was the standard bluegrass G tuning. That's a fact. I took lessons from him.
http://www.neolithrecords.com/danhicks.html
Actually, Tom Morrell does some fine playing on some of his How The West Was Swung series.[This message was edited by HowardR on 21 November 2004 at 05:47 PM.] |
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Stephan Miller
From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2004 7:51 pm
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Charles--Howard hit the bullseye. If there's a more swinging dobro sound than Bob Hipkens of the Central Park Sheiks, I'd like to hear it. Saw the band in '76 at the Cellar Door in D.C.--a great acoustic swing band with terrific guitar and fiddle playing
also, though Hipkens stood out because of his choice of instrument and mastery of the style on it. Some of the other tunes: "Way Down Yonder in New Orleans", "San Antonio Rose" and "Stompin' at the Savoy".
I played the heck out of that album--their only recording as far as I know-- until some time in the 90's when CDs took over and stuff piled up on my turntable cover. When Howard mentioned Hipkens and the Sheiks in another thread a while back,I started listening to 'em again: the album was called "Honeysuckle Rose" and I heard the whole thing again this morning, putting fresh strings on guitars and wishing this recording was in CD form. Bingo--Japanese re-issue! Thanks Howard!! Charles, y'oughta check out the above link and get yourself a copy-- could be the best 2800 yen you ever spent... -Steve
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HowardR
From: N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 21 Nov 2004 9:17 pm
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Yes, that was the only album they ever recorded. They broke up shortly after that. Matt Glaser played fiddle. They were all very acomplished.
Charles, also, Bob Dunn who played with Milton Brown and his Musical Brownies. He was also a horn player (trombone) whose horn style translated very well to the steel. He played 6 string also. I don't know what tuning he used. I didn't take lessons from him.
Those recordings are from the late 30s I believe and are available.
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nick allen
From: France
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Posted 22 Nov 2004 1:30 am
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Forumite Gary Morse has a great album called "Resophonic Rodeo" - a mixture of country and western swing tunes - although he does in fact use a 7-string dobro...
Jerry Douglas covers pretty much every stylistic base on his solo records, including swing and jazz... I believe Rob Ickes is another one who is equally eclectic, but I don't have any of his stuff yet, I'm afraid...
Nick
P.S. Gary Morse's CD is in b0b's catalog, but shown as "Temporarily out of stock" - you could check with him when he'll be getting more...[This message was edited by nick allen on 22 November 2004 at 01:33 AM.] |
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Gerald Ross
From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2004 6:17 am
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I had the Central Park Sheiks album. I bought it when it first came out. Great stuff. It disappeared during one of my moves. Wish I still had it.
If I'm not mistaken, Richard Lieberson was the guitarist in the group. Another guy from NYC. He wrote a book in the 70's called "OLD TIME FIDDLE TUNES FOR GUITAR".
http://www.elderly.com/books/items/01-020809.htm
He was on this forum for awhile.
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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 22 November 2004 at 06:18 AM.] |
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Andy Volk
From: Boston, MA
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Posted 22 Nov 2004 8:18 am
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Cindy Cashdollar's CD "Slideshow" features some nice examples of swinging Dobro work on in a 6-string G6th tuning. Orville Johnson's CD "Freehand" features wonderful playing on a grooving Bossa Nova as well as a number of other genres. Rob Ickes plays in a more Blue Note-era jazz bag on his CDs, "Slide City" and "What It Is". Slide City feels less forced IMHO. |
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Todd Weger
From: Safety Harbor, FLAUSA
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Posted 23 Nov 2004 4:57 am
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Yo -- 2800 Yen is a great price. At current exchange, that's only $27. You can get this CD on Amazon too, but the cheapest used price there is $35, and new, they're $44. Yikes...
Would sure love to hear some of this. Anyone have a clip they could post?
T
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Todd James Weger/RD/RTD
1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, E13, B11); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, E13); Melobar SLS lapsteel (open D); Chandler RH-4 Koa semi-hollow lapsteel (open G); Regal resonator (open D or G)
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