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Topic: Fender "HOT-ROD" Delux ? |
Richard Tipple
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2003 2:23 pm |
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Im thinking of trying out a Hot-Rod on the road.
Im in some need of some input from others who use the Hot Rod Delux for stage shows.
How do you like yours.
Lloyd Greene used the Hot Rod on his new CD & the tone & range was awesome, but again that was Lloyd Greene the legand 
By the way I just recieved Lloyds new CD "Revisited" autographed & all with a personal note to me,,, what a guy
His CD is un-real,,classic Lloyd all the way.
Im using a Nashville 400 now & was thinking of adding the POD XT, but the weight is massive with the custom BW industrial speaker,,about 75Lbs total  |
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David Doggett
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Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 8 Dec 2003 3:28 pm
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| Richard, I've been reading up on the HR Deluxe here and on the ampwares.com Fender Field Guide. It has 40 watts and a single 12". I am thinking of getting one as a home practice amp and for some occassions when I play with quite acoustic groups. But I don't think it will give you the clean volume you need for an electric group with bass and drums. Some people have found the HR Deville with 60 watts and two 12s can work for small gigs, especially if it is miked. Your Peavey had 200 watts of clean solid state headroom. You will miss that dearly with any tube amp smaller than a twin reverb. I started out with a black face Super Reverb with 45 watts and a single 15". It sounded good at moderate volumes, but didn't have enough clean headroom for a lot of gigs. What Lloyd Green uses to good advantage in the studio, might not work for you live at today's typical volume levels. |
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2003 7:10 pm
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I have a Fender Blues Deluxe which is a tweed amp from the custom shop, but nothing special. It is 40w with a 12 inch Eminence speaker. I think it very close to the Hot Rod Deluxe.
It is OK for home/studio use. It gets a little weak with big C6 chords. It will do better with pure E9. Definitely not an amp to gig with.
Reading some posts from a few months ago and if my memory serves me, LG said he uses the Fender Hot Rod amp, but the 15" vintage JBL speaker is in a separate cabinet isolated in an amp closet. For live work and steel shows he still uses peavey (things may have changed).
FYI
Hope this helps
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Richard Tipple
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2003 8:25 pm
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Hay thanks fellas this is what I was wanting to know.
Even though our amps are miked, I just dont think the Hot Rod has the umph! for a live show.
Thanks again |
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Michael Brebes
From:
Northridge CA
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 7:38 am
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| I put an EV12L speaker in mine. It makes it louder and heavier. Without it, the volume wasn't enough. Much better than the stock speaker. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 2:22 pm
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Several posts on this same topic..
The HRDLX's are great little amps and as I have mentioned in earlier posts I owned one for many many years. Although it has an exceptional low volume tone for Steel..thats where it ends. Not near enough headroom for a gig, even a moderate gig. I tried several different types of tubes and extension speakers as well.
This amp is really a wonderful little gigging guitar amp but it also lacks the headroom to play fat chords on any guitar neck pickup. Being a Tele' dude the HRDLX served me well but I recently upgraded to a HR Deville 2x12..night and day..The 60 watt version can easily handle the Steel ( C6th) for moderate gigs, actually I use it often for all gigs..
Excellent classic Fender tube tone with good ample clean volume. I love these amps.
T |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 2:55 pm
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| Tony, would a HR Deluxe work for a psg home practice amp and to play in acoustic jams (where no one else is electrified)? It's size and weight with the single 12" seem ideal, and the 40 watts of clean power seems like it would be enough on paper. But I do play a universal, and like to get down on the low strings for swing, jazz, rock and blues. I realize a Deville would be safer, but the heavier amp with the two 12s would sort of defeat my purpose. I'm really talking about a living room tube amp, but able to handle some lows. |
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 7:29 pm
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IMHO. I too, play a universal E9/B6. It is a good living room/studio/practice amp. It would be fine for an acoustic jam. I jam on Thursday nights with an acoustic group, usually on Dobro. When the steel is called for the amps tone is great with the volume set around 2 or 3. Much past that well...
The big gun for me is Walker's Stereo Steel.
Ron |
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 8:02 pm
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I tried the "Hot Rod Deluxe" and absolutely "hated it!"
Dave |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 8:11 pm
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David..I certainly am not the final authority on the HRDLX but I would say..Yes..in that situation I think this amp would be outstanding. I should have mentioned that I used my former HRDLX at all band practice sessions and it was way better than fine. I used the amp on many many gigs as well but just found the bottom end to dirty and mushy. Although this is a 40 watt amp I wouldn't go on a limb and claim it's a full clean 40 watt amp.. You may need to work on the bottom end tone a tad..that would be my main issue..
It's a great little amp and used under the right circumstances would be fine, and should you decide to turn it around these little baby's are very hot on the guitar market..I sold mine on EBAY in "10" condition with the appropriate BUY NOW price the first day.
Good Luck
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Michael Brebes
From:
Northridge CA
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Posted 10 Dec 2003 7:54 am
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| The way I cleaned up the low tone was to replace the 6L6's with Svetlana EL34's. |
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Larry R
From:
Navasota, Tx.
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Posted 11 Dec 2003 3:05 pm
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The Hot Rod Deville 60w 2x12 would not carry the low end of my SD-10 nor the mids and didn't do well with the highs. I bought the amp for my tele and did try it with my steel. The amp is just not engineered for steel guitar. You can get by with it at low volume but why do that when there are very good steel amps available and light weight at that, especially the new Peavey with a 12" spkr!! My own opinion. The Hot Rod is fairly heavey.
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