Pod XT - Tuner ?

Davie Holland · From: Scotland, UK

Just wondering about something! The tuner in the Pod Xt is a software program right? So is it possible to "upgrade" the tuner to show frequencies/hz/cents/strobe/temper tuning presets like the Peterson tuners?
(Peterson do a software download to turn your home pc/laptop into a peterson tuner)
Might be one to put to line 6 themselves?
Your thoughts?
Davie Holland

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I don't think so. The tuner is a basic tuner designed for 6 string guitar players. I don't find the tuner very accurate, anyway. A couple of cents plus or minus will still show as "0" on mine. I can tune both of my G# strings dead on with my Peterson VS-II and they will show differently on the POD XT tuner.

David Doggett · Posted 19 Jun 2006 6:28 am

I agree the POD XT tuner is pretty crude. It has some marks, but they are not cents or hz, so if you want to tune something other than straight up, the marks are only crude guidelines. You can figure out roughly what they are by tuning carefully to a good tuner, then looking at the POD tuner to see where you are. The POD tuner is especially unstable on low strings for C6 or uni, but I discovered it works much better if you floor your volume pedal to give the tuner as much signal as possible.

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Student of the Steel: Zum uni, Fender tube amps, squareneck and roundneck resos, tenor sax, keyboards

Chick Donner · From: North Ridgeville, OH USA

After thnking about this for a couple of days, I'm gonna respectfully disagree with jack and Dave. I carry a Korg DTR1 in my rack along with my PodXT Pro; I am ASSUMING that the tuner in the Pro (rack mount model) is the same tuner as in the XT (the kidney type); as log as that's true, I would say that the tuner in the Pod is almost as good as the DTR1. It is certainly accurate, for me. The DTR1 is obviously a little easier to see, just on sheer size. But, I use a modified Newman tuning system, and use the HZ scale. I tune e's, b's, etc straight up (442), and tune the G#'s and C#'s right at three to four cycles low; on the Pod, that corresponds to the left "bracket" in the tuner window.

I have experimented by turning the DTR off and tuning with only the Pod, then turn th4e DTR on and check it. The Pod tuned guitar was right on.

David Doggett · Posted 21 Jun 2006 12:25 pm

Chick, I don't doubt that the POD tuner is accurate. It's just that the markings are few and unlabelled. I tune something like the Newman tuning, but by ear. With some experience watching the tuner while I tune by ear, I know roughly where each string belongs according to the unlabelled marks on the POD tuner. Basically I tune all open strings to 442 (with no pedals down), and tune the 2, 3, 6, and 10 strings (on my uni) to about 439. That takes care of a little cabinet drop when the pedals are down, and gives a little stretch sharpness appropriate to the register of the pedal steel. Also, if anything changes during playing, it tends to go flat, so it is better to start a hair sharp. Also, as the band retunes while playing, they tend to tune up rather than down. With my Boss TU, I can tune right to the labelled marks, with no guess work. Both tuners tend to be unstable on my lowest uni strings, but the POD is worse for that. Other than that, they agree with each other. Again, it helps to floor the volume pedal while tuning with either tuner.

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Student of the Steel: Zum uni, Fender tube amps, squareneck and roundneck resos, tenor sax, keyboards

[This message was edited by David Doggett on 21 June 2006 at 01:30 PM.]

Chick Donner · From: North Ridgeville, OH USA

Just for grins, try tuning the strings you tune "down" to put the little circle right at the left bracket and see how it sounds.

Jerry Heath · From: Harrah, Oklahoma, USA

I thought that I could just use the xt tuner as well. When I tuned up and started playing I noticed that I was a little sharp. Got out the old Seiko 767 tuner and it verified my suspicions. I know this could be a calibration difference between the two devices. (440 on one device is 440.5 and on the other is 439.5) But it's also a possibility the the xt tuner isn't as accurate. There is no cent scale on the xt only some reference windows and an indicator as to when your in the target area.

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Jerry Heath
Sierra Sessions U-12
Nashville 400
Sessions 400
Profex II
Pod XT

Chick Donner · From: North Ridgeville, OH USA

Jerry [Heath] id right; there are no reference marks . . . but, on my Pod Xt Pro, the left "braciet" corresponds almost perfectly to the Newman tuning's flattened strings. As to absolute accuracy? If it's within a half or one cycle, I certainly couldn't hear it anyway.

Jerry Heath · From: Harrah, Oklahoma, USA

Chick,

I don't tune using Jeff's technique, but if what your saying is correct, that position would be about 438.5 hz. Would that be by putting the far left point of the diamond just touching the left window? What do you do for the other aspects of Jeff's tuning ie.. the b pedal 441?

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Jerry Heath
Sierra Sessions U-12
Nashville 400
Sessions 400
Profex II
Pod XT

Chick Donner · From: North Ridgeville, OH USA

I don't. I tune either straight up or 3 to 4 cycoes flat.

AND, while I'm told by folks that know lots more than I do that it cannot work, I tune the C6th to E's straight up (open) everything else about 4 cycles sharp. It's in tune, all agree to that, even tho they say it won't work.

Peter · Posted 28 Jun 2006 8:17 am

I calibrated my PodXt with the Peterson tuner and came up with this diagram.
You can stick this on your guitar or on the PodXt.

And here is the MsWord document, so you can make your own diagram.
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Peter den Hartogh
1978 Emmons S10 P/P; 1977 Sho-Bud D10 ProIII Custom;
1975 Fender Artist S10; Remington U12; 1947 Gibson BR4;

[This message was edited by Peter on 28 June 2006 at 09:32 AM.]

John Sluszny · From: Brussels, Belgium

Thanks Peter!

Jonathan Shacklock · From: London, UK

I like it a lot Peter! Thanks very much.

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