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Topic: Dialing in a tone for my Evans |
John Lacey
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Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 28 Apr 2006 3:46 am |
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I just copped a slightly used SE200 a couple of months ago and have been trying to dial in a decent tone. Given I had owned an FET500 for many years previously, I had a mental image of what I wanted and also followed the recommended settings from the sheet from Evans. The problem I found was partially that the treble was too shrill as noted on some previous threads and that the overall tone was a little thin even with compensating with the body and depth knobs. I had been running my volumes at around 5 and 5. I talked to a friend and Evans owner the other day and he suggested running the master at 10 and the volume accordingly. So far in my studio it opened it up for me. I'll test it out on the gig this weekend for sure. Any comments?
PS: Also, one of the metal covers on the handle falls off easily. Seems to clip on and is held on with some kind of glue. Any idea what kind of glue? It's metal to metal.[This message was edited by John Lacey on 28 April 2006 at 05:09 AM.] |
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Gary Glisson
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munford, tn 38058
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Posted 28 Apr 2006 4:19 am
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wow 10 thats a lot of volume!
i have two FET 500's not sure about the se200 but i run my high's on 1/2 to 1.
volume's on 4 or 5 anything more that that would sound like a jet and damage my ears further and i can't hear anyway, sense my 2 tours in vietnam!
gary |
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John Lacey
From:
Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 28 Apr 2006 4:52 am
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| That's with the volume knob on 1 or 2, still experimenting. Might use input #2 also. |
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 28 Apr 2006 7:12 am
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John - My old FET-500 seems to operate better with the master turned up to about 80%. Can't go past 2 on the treble or glass starts breaking. Yes, input #2 seems to work better with the hot pickup I use and the Hilton Digital Sustain.
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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande
Mullen U-12, Excel 8-string Frypan, Evans FET-500, Fender Steel King
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Waisznor
From:
Berlin, Germany
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Posted 28 Apr 2006 11:06 am
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I was always happy with the sound from my Evans FET 500 LV. But I found the best tone one day, when my grandchildren turned up "All" my control knobs to "10" (Expand and Depth switch : OFF). I turned only down the MASTER and REVERB to 5 and that are the settings I play with the Evans since that day. A very clear and balanced tone!
Horst[This message was edited by Waisznor on 28 April 2006 at 12:08 PM.] [This message was edited by Waisznor on 28 April 2006 at 12:46 PM.] |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2006 1:29 am
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| My "Plan B" for any amp that isn't conforming to my prejudices is to turn the midrange up to 10, everything else off and work backwards from there. It's counterintuitive, but it also works pretty good sometimes. |
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John Lacey
From:
Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 1 May 2006 8:46 am
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| Well, tried it out Saturday on my jam gig and put the master on 10 and the individual volume on 2 and boy it smartened it up. It's a totally different amp. Think that this may be the solution. |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 1 May 2006 10:56 am
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John, one thing I've noticed about the Evans SE-200 (I'm a happy owner for 3 years) is the amp is fairly transparent in it's overall translation of the input signal. At least to my ears. So, I think alot depends on the enherent tone of your guitar. I've only played Emmons push/pulls through my SE-200 (S12 and D10). This is how I set the controls:
Master Volume: 8
Reverb: 1-3
Bass: 8
Depth Switch: on
Mid: 5
Expand: off
Treble: 1-2
Pregain: usually not above 3
NOTE: because of the tone of Emmons p/p in the upper registers I've selected to not use the Expand switch. The tone would be too bright otherwise. However, I have played a Sierra S14 through this amp and needed the extra highs provided by the Expand switch.
Hence, the brand of instrument you play through the SE-200, will determine your best settings. The warmer the instrument's tone the less bass and mids will be required. The brighter the instrument's tone the less treble will be required.
Hope this helps with your settings. 
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn[This message was edited by Glenn Suchan on 01 May 2006 at 11:57 AM.] |
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Arty Passes
From:
Austin, TX
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Posted 4 May 2006 3:13 pm
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Hey Glenn-
You just saved me a phone call (I'll probably call you anyway), but I just picked up my SE200 today. Sounds great, and searching to find other ideas on settings,and finding some interesting and very different approaches.
Thanks to all for the input - can't wait to try it out for real tomorrow night.
I have a feeling it might take a few gigs to get it right, but new toys are always fun to play with......
Arty |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 5 May 2006 10:36 am
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Congratulations, Arty! I suspect your SE-200 will serve you well. You'll likely hear your Emmons with "new ears".
Have a great show up in Wichita Falls and I'll try to get out to the show tomorrow (weather permitting). Be safe out there and say howdy to Kevin 'n the guys for me.
Keep on pickin', mi amigo!
Glenn |
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bill dearmore
From:
Belton,Tx.,USA
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Posted 5 May 2006 7:22 pm
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| Hi John, try this...run the volume on 6-7, the master as needed. This is what a buddy told me Jim Evans said...go figure. It really cleans it up, and lots of body. have fun,...bill Congrads on the SE200 Arty...c ya,...bill [This message was edited by bill dearmore on 05 May 2006 at 08:24 PM.] |
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John Lacey
From:
Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 6 May 2006 3:14 am
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| Bill, I ran the master at around 6, then the individual volume around 6 and that's when the mud occurred. Seems like I had to get the master up higher to open it up. [This message was edited by John Lacey on 06 May 2006 at 04:18 AM.] |
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 6 May 2006 5:23 am
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| Hey Glenn depth switch on what number? Or do you just have a switch? I have a depth dial is the reason I ask and my amp is about the same age. |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 8 May 2006 12:36 pm
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Craig,
My SE-200 has the switches for "Depth" and "Expand". The "Depth" boosts the lows; the "Expand" boosts lows and highs and leaves the mids unchanged. Thus, I advise to listen to your guitar's sound and dial the "Depth" and/or the "Expand" to the point that the lows, mids and highs have the balance you're looking for.
If my memory serves me well, I recall you play an Emmons p/p, Right? If so, then your guitar is probably very robust in the mids and highs. So, you might need the "Depth" dialed up to a higher amount than the "Expand". In fact, you may not need to use the "Expand", at all, just as I have found with my two push/pulls.
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn |
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 8 May 2006 4:21 pm
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Thanks Glen for the advice.
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1985 Emmons push-pull,Evans SE200,Fender Twin, Hilton pedal, Jag Wire Strings
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