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John Lockney
From: New Market, Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 6:37 pm
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How long has the VS-II been out ? What could they add that would make the next one even better ?
Additional user-programmable memory banks would be nice. Other than that it might be difficult to improve on the VS-II. 1/1000th of a cent accuracy ?
[This message was edited by John Lockney on 13 January 2006 at 04:15 AM.] |
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Kevin Mincke
From: Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 6:58 pm
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A "factory reset" back to Peterson specs may be helpful. I just spent a considerable amount of time thinking I had a bad unit and found everything was de-tuned a whole step but no idea how to restore it A440 and once I did, would all the other modes except P-1/2 follow? I'm still working on getting my Newman (the old red cents/Hz tuning chart) programmed into P 1&2. They always worked very well for my guitars. It is a very nice tuner, just different than my Korg WT-12 or my original Peterson 400. I'll grow to love it soon!! |
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Greg Cutshaw
From: Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2006 8:41 am
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Direct readout of frequency would be nice in some situations.
Having the tuner store presets for specific notes by octave would be useful. So you could store different settings for different F#'s on E9th for example. And one memory bank can be for pedals and one for open tuning. So in general I could use easily 4 memory banks that store notes by octave.
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Joe Lipman
From: Nashville TN
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Posted 13 Jan 2006 9:56 am
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I had a similar problem with mine. Thought I had permanently re-programmed it.
I called the comapny and someone told me how to reset it to factory specs. I have it written down somewhere. I'll post it, if I can find it.
Joe |
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Scott Appleton
From: Ashland, Oregon
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Posted 13 Jan 2006 10:41 am
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true bypass would be nice. brighter screen .. more presets.
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Terry Edwards
From: Florida... livin' on spongecake...
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Posted 13 Jan 2006 2:05 pm
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Single space rack mount model would be nice.
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Brad Sarno
From: St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2006 3:07 pm
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Hey, how 'bout that new StroboSoft? It's the ultimate Peterson tuner in software form for your computer. Very cool and very affordable. I may have to go and get it.
Brad
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John Lockney
From: New Market, Maryland, USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2006 4:05 pm
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I called Peterson about an unrelated question today, the guy I spoke to is a steel player, reads the forum, and had read this thread. (hi!)
It sounds like the VS-II does not have a "reset to factory defaults" key combination to clear the user banks. Nor a watch-like battery you can take out to make it forget.
They addressed all of the questions above. There was something about two Newman charts, fundmentals and Hertz... I'm not going to take a chance at misquoting or passing along bad info.
Suffice to say, they know a LOT about tuning and our feedback has been registered to keep in mind for future versions. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 14 Jan 2006 3:48 am
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I talked to John at the Peterson booth in St Louis last year. One thing they are hung up on is their pre-programmed steel tunings which are basically the Jeff Newman chart (at plus 10 cents for the E's). The problem is that is not the definitive tuning for ALL guitars. Every guitar is different and the guitar must be in tune with itself. Everyone that I know that has a Peterson tuner is using their own programmed tunings, not the Peterson factory tunings.
From an electronics tech viewpoint I would like to see them make it "bullet proof". My original one died with an input circuitry problem -that should never happen. They did promptly replace it under warranty with a new one. Another issue is the cheap push button switches that rely on a conductive material in the button to make contact with printed circuit contacts. That is real cheap and like something that would be on a $5.00 toy game, not a "professional" tuner. The (smelly) blue case for the tuner is not really workable for steel guitars. Try getting the tuner in your Pak Seat with that blue case or trying to sit it on a steel neck while you tune - not realistic. And carrying it in their separate carrying case is also a hassle and makes another separate unit to carry. There also needs to be a "time out" circuit (like many other tuners) in case you accidentally leave it powered on or in case the power switch is moved to on in your seat (I've had that happen several times) and it drained the batteries.
The Peterson tuner is a great concept, just needs to be tweaked and take the "cheapness" out of it. |
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Buster Warren
From: Nakina,N.C. USA
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Posted 14 Jan 2006 11:57 am
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Single space rack mount would be GREAT !
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Per Berner
From: Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 15 Jan 2006 1:54 am
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It's a great machine, BUT:
- the manual is hopeless
- and the user interface is no better.
No logic in either; a typical case of design aimed at easy production rather than easy use, just like most programmable multi-effect pedals. I would gladly pay 50% extra for a product that could be used right out of the box without the manual, with dedicated buttons and knobs for each function.
BTW, the info on their discussion forum is mostly clear, concise and easy to follow. So why not the manual?
Also, mine broke down after 2 minutes of use. Got a new one promptly, but still unimpressive.
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 15 Jan 2006 3:50 am
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Good points, Per. Add that to my comments.
I failed to mention the "manual" but it is like many user/tech manuals - If you know how it works you can find what you want or how to do a procedure - BUT if you don't know how it works it's almost useless.
It took me several hours to program my unit, and I pride myself on being able to understand most things of this sort with my tech writing/electronics/computer background. It was only by accident that I finally found out how to save what was in the user memory. |
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Joey Ace
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 15 Jan 2006 4:10 am
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I'd like to see it fit in it's blue sleeve backwards, for protection when in transit.
My Fluke 77 meter fits in it's case like that. The LCD is protected that way. Very handy.
The big knob on my V-SAM prevents this. |
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John Lockney
From: New Market, Maryland, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2006 6:17 am
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I bet a rack version would sell. Most guitar players think the Korg rack tuner is the best there is since "rack = high-end". I think they are attracted to the look of the oscilating "Kitt" lights.
[This message was edited by John Lockney on 15 January 2006 at 06:43 AM.] |
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Bob Cox
From: Buckeye State
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Posted 15 Jan 2006 4:09 pm
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A digital vocal comand of lower or higher could be incorporated for handicaped and blind musicians.I,m not blind or handicapped myself, but I do know anything that can be done to help a handicaped person is a present from god. |
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Charles Dempsey
From: Shongaloo, LA
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Posted 15 Jan 2006 5:16 pm
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I love mine. It does everything I want.
I thought the case was kind'a funky when I got it, but these days I don't even notice it. The VS-II is so much better than the next best thing I've used that I'll forgive the case.
IMHO, if you've got a well designed user interface you don't need a manual.
Charlie[This message was edited by Charles Dempsey on 15 January 2006 at 05:16 PM.] |
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Joerg Schubert
From: Hagen, Germany
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Posted 17 Jan 2006 10:41 pm
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Hi,
the Peterson is a good tuner with a few (but critical) disadvantages. What I'm missing is:
- A true bypass in a way that you can leave the tuner in the signal chain without ruin the sound.
- The clip they sell as an accessory to tune acoustic instruments is a real mess. It's not working with any of my instruments like mandolin, ac guitar, double bass, national steel, dobro if you use it with the power supply. With battery it works somehow but with very poor results compared to an e.g. Intellitouch contact tuner.
Joerg
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