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Topic: Fender 65 Twin 15" |
Larry Robbins
From: Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 19 Nov 2004 3:02 pm
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anyone tried one of theese for double duty, steel and Strat or Tele? Thanks. |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 19 Nov 2004 3:34 pm
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As good or better than my Webb, and thats saying alot. |
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Brian Donegan
From: Red Bank, New Jersey, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2004 7:37 pm
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I just had mine deliverd today, I use a vibroking for my guitar normally but my strat sounded great through the custom 15. Very clean, even at high volumes. A LesPaul however drives the amp and gets it to break up at high volumes. Not what you want for steel. But with the steel there was no distrotion issues. Heres the BAD NEWS, I had the amp out of the box for 20 min, I kid you not 20. And the "on" bulb burned out, and the amp has 2 microphonic tubes.Now they did not become microphonic in that time, they are just bad tubes, but that tells me the quality control is poor, so I was pissed, called Fender, the rep on the phone was not what I would call concerned. He told me I would have to take it to a Fender repair shop. When I called the shop they told me they could not just swap out the tubes, They have to wait for new ones to come from fender,then they will put them in. Which means I would have to leave the amp. I called Fender and asked do they see a problem with having to bring a 20 min old amp to be repaired? The response was "these are usally reliable amps".What? So...here is the problem, so far from the limted use I have given the amp it sounds amazing I do not want to get rid of it, It looks great, has a hauting reverb (different then the 3 knob vibro king, not as lush)and has great response both low and high. But when you get an expensive amp , and a bulb burns out right away, and it was shipped with not 1 but 2 bad tubes that does not make me feel very good. At the very least advise customer support to send out new tubes and a bulb right away to me. My goal here is not to turn anyone off to Fender or to badmouth them, I would just hope this gets back to them and they support there product a bit better. I am a long time Fender customer. I own quite a few Custom Shop pieces and love them. But they should understand the excitement, and the experience of getting a new item. Be it a car or a motorcycle or an amp, When you get a new high ticket item and there is a problem with it , that alone is very disapointing, but couple that with a lack of concern from a company, and your disapointment turns to anger. I should say I do not think this should reflect poorly on the store where I got it, They have no control over this.Anyway.....sorry Larry for taking up space on your post, I had to vent a little.Thanks,Brian P.S. I know I am a poor speller,sorry. |
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Joe Alterio
From: Irvington, Indiana
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Posted 19 Nov 2004 8:14 pm
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Brian....I had the same thing happen. TWICE. TWO different amps! I had the "tambourine-effect" going when certain notes were played. I could only guess that it was the tubes...though TWO amp guys looked at the 1st amp and couldn't find a dern thing wrong with it. I brought it back, got a new amp....same problem, but occured at different notes.
Could you hear it on stage? Never. On a recording? Definitely. Too much money to spend for a bad quality product. It did sound great, though.
Another Forumite bought one and the reverb was shot shortly thereafter.
When's the last time someone has purchased a Peavey and had ANY problems whatsoever? And, in the rare instance there IS a problem, how long to be completely satisfied with a solution by Mike Brown?
No comparison!
I will say that the Custom Twin was easily the best sounding steel amp I have ever played through....but my Session 400 w/JBL is pretty close. Plus, it was a fraction of the price, solid state (no fuss 'n muss), and will withstand WW3.
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Larry Robbins
From: Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 7:18 am
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Hmmmmm,
I was about to order one,but now Im not so sure....Think Ill wait a while longer.
Thought I would get something "new" and keep my Nash 400 for a back-up. Brian,
please keep us posted on how you make out with your amp.
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Sho-Bud ProII, Pro III custom,
Nash 400,Hilton pedal,Tut Taylor "Virginian" reso"There's been an awful murder, down on music row"
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Brian Donegan
From: Red Bank, New Jersey, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 8:21 am
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I will Larry, I did not mean to post such a long reply, I just starting typing and I got a little carried away. Thanks,Brian |
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Mark Herrick
From: Bakersfield, CA
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 1:00 pm
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I bought a new Twin Custom 15 cabinet from a forumite recently and it had a note from the factory inside saying to be sure to tighten the baffle mounting screws completely before using the amp. I guess for some reason they don't do that at the factory. (Seems like someone mentioned recently a mysterious rattling sound in one of these new amps.)
As far as the tubes are concerned, yes they SHOULD be functional, but one of the first things I would do anyway is swap them out for better ones and re-bias the amp since I think they come from the factory biased cold.
I've had plenty of regular old 60 watt light bulbs from the grocery store burn out on the first flip of the switch...
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Brian Donegan
From: Red Bank, New Jersey, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 3:07 pm
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I have had a bad light bulb or two in my life, but this is somthing different,it is not really about the bulb, it is about the companys attitude towards their customers when they send out an amp with malfunctioning parts in it, and the customer calls them, and they do not support the product. I normally put "winged c" tubes in all my amps,and will do that with this amp. THe point of my post is consumer confidence,and qualty control.I have many fender products, they have built 2 guitars for me at almost 3 grand each, I have a vibroking which is 2600.00 and a 59 bassman(reissue)I do like fender gear, I am not trying to turn anyone off to them as I stated before, I am just telling my experience.As far as the amp goes, aside from these problems the amp sounds great. I use a lot of point to point wired amps( top hat, vibro king, 69 twin) and I have become a bit of an amp snob. This amp with its printed circut board has a lot of depth,I think somtimes the snobery with PTP amps ( my own snobery included) gets a little out of control. This amp has impressive volume and stays clean, unless you have a hot pickup in a 6 string and really lay into it. But for steel it stays clean even at loud volumes. One thing that threw me at first was the volume pot in this amp increases from about 4 to 9. This is neither good or bad just different from my other fender amps, which get loud right away at 1 or 2 and max out by 7 ( except for breaking up more) I think this amp could easily do double duty for a 6 string and steel on stage, I will not do that , I will take this out just for steel, and a seperate amp for guitar. I have to many pedals and such for 6 string, and I dont want them in the chain for steel. I have not tried a 6 string with a tube screamer, but I think it would sound great with that as well. This amp is heavy 66lbs, but does come with wheels and a cover. Even with the minor problems I have had, I would recommend this amp based on tone. I think Fender is the best looking amps as well. Thanks,Brian |
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