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Topic: EQ madness -- does this sound familiar? |
Greg Vincent
From:
Folsom, CA USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 8:23 am |
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Bottom's too boomy. I'll cut the lows a bit. That's better, but now it sounds a little thin, better roll off some of those highs. Better, but the mid-range is a bit "honky", let's roll off some mids. Hmmm, that's an improvement, except now there's too much bottom... etc. etc.
Pretty soon I've rolled off everything! That can't be right! Arrrghh!
--Pulling my hair out in L.A.[This message was edited by Greg Vincent on 27 August 2004 at 10:03 AM.] [This message was edited by Greg Vincent on 27 August 2004 at 10:04 AM.] |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 8:58 am
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| Just one of those days... Make sure your ears aren't congested due to a cold. That will make nothin' work & everything sound terrible. |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 9:15 am
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Greg, what amp is it?
Brad Sarno
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Greg Vincent
From:
Folsom, CA USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 9:39 am
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Nash 400 w/factory mod. Great, sturdy, LOUD, dependable amp for a great price, but I've been fighting with the EQ (especially the mids) forever and am going nuts.
I have a Black Box on order. Will your gizmo deliver me from this madness, Brad? |
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Andy Zahnd
From:
Switzerland
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 12:28 pm
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start with:
Low +8
Mid -8
Hz around 750-800
High 0
presence 0
experiment on a place where you allways sounded good!
and as soon you get your "Tone"...
life with it, don't change it, because it sound bad for you in the next hall..... after a short time, you will find out..... it's your hands, your way of playing, your daily mood, your ears....
find your way to be happy with what you get on that day...... even you're starting to change everything..... it will not help you to be happier!!!!!!! learn to except the fact: what you're hear is allways YOU!!!!
so be happy and play with a  on your face, even it sucks...........  |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 12:31 pm
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Greg, the Box will surely help add some sweetness and midrange richness to the tone. But, you still should still be able to dial in an adequate balanced tone from that amp. On that amp, I've found it's good to put the mid freq at about 800Hz and cut the mids back to say 8 or 9 o'clock. Bass at 4 o'clock. Treble and presence at noon. Start there maybe. Let me know how the Black Box works for you. I've heard good reports from people with the BB and the NV400 together.
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 1:43 pm
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I agree with Andy. The room can make a big difference. At my house, I have a room where I keep my steel and amp set up and I have a tough time getting a decent tone. It's a fairly small room with furniture and carpeting. It seems to suck out any tone my guitar and amp produce. The same applies to my acoustic/electric guitar and amp. The great tone I get out of that combination in church sounds nowhere near as good in that music room.
Another thing. Make sure you have fresh strings on your guitar.
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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande
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Jonathan Cullifer
From:
Gallatin, TN
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 6:19 pm
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| It's a struggle sometimes. I wish my amp had a digital EQ in it so I could smooth it out like I want it and notch out certain frequencies which give me trouble. |
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Dave Boothroyd
From:
Staffordshire Moorlands
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 10:39 pm
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How many sliders does your EQ have?
You need 3 per octave if you are going cut cut out frequencies that are annoying you or doing bad things in the room. If you are using an EQ with wider bands, than "one third octave" you will cut ,say, "boominess" and also lose "depth and warmness".
Audio problems are often within very narrow frequency bands- good tone is spread across the audio range- maybe even beyond it!
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Cheers!
Dave
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 27 Aug 2004 7:52 pm
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For small room practise, I've found that my best tone comes from putting the amp about 2' off the ground and facing 45 deg from a corner. I play near the opposite corner, at least 8 feet away.
Small rooms cause standing waves that act as a comb filter...Move your head 4" and its a totally different sound.... Going on the 45 deg seems to cause a bunch of reflections that minimize that problem. |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 28 Aug 2004 7:04 am
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How about outdoors? I can't ever get my rig to sound good outdoors, using 2 different amps with 15" speakers in stereo.
bob |
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