Studio Mix vs Live Mix

Dennis Detweiler · From: Solon, Iowa, US

In the final studio mix on your steel track on an instrumental, do you mix your effects as heavy as you mix during a gig?
Thanks
DD

basilh · From: United Kingdom

NO...A live gig aready contains quite a bit of live reverb to overcome and superimpose your effect upon... whilst if you mixing for a record you are expecting the listener to be in a MUCH smaller environment.. and therefore you adjust the 'wetness' accordingly..
IMHO

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Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

Another NO ..NO NO NO..

Totally different deals.

Live mixes are set to compensate for LIVE music in the "ROOM"..from a bandstand perspective. I have found these mixes to be a bit stronger on the Hi end and effects ( reverbs etc) as compared to a recording scenario.

Studio/Recording mixes are set by the Mastering Engineers talent and ability to put everything together without Instruments interfering with other Instruments, be it EQ, effects, levels etc...This is the person who paints the picture and if he or she is good the picture will not have oeverlapping colors or brush strokes.

Maybe you have noticed at some shows where they have had a sound crew running sound and a totally different crew and gear setup for recording the show.

For recording you may start with EQ and effects settings which are similar to the bandstand but for the most part they most likely will be rolled back. When you listen back in a controlled enviornment the dominance of too much EQ or effects is front and center.

I hope this is what you were asking..
t

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 25 June 2004 at 02:37 AM.]

Dennis Detweiler · From: Solon, Iowa, US

I've found the gig settings too heavey for recording. To take this another step:
If the engineer tells you he would rather have you mix your steel track effects to your taste, what are your personal reverb and/or delay choices?
Delay Speed:?
Delay Feedback:?
Delay Level:?
Etc?
I'm trying to get a perspective of how much you're cutting back in the studio.
Do you mix your effects on a steel track using headphones or studio monitors?
Thanks
DD

Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

Dennis, it's valid question and the answer is: You're gonna have to listen to the entire mix and make you choice of settings based on what you are hearing. Your stock settings are a good starting point but the final blend will be based on what you hear back with everything in the mix.

It's not a question of right or wrong..

Headphones is what I use but I always use the near fields at the end for a quick overall listen as well.

Me, I would give a tad of boost on the Lows, reduce the mids and a give gentle boost to the Hi's. Delays are subjective, I use approx 280 ms slap delay with minimal feedback delay (1 slap) and an Early Reflections Large Hall reverb to taste.But thats just me.

One of the things I have been doing for Steel solo's vs Steel backup is changing the type of reverb and delay.For back-up I have been using a standard Hall reverb with no delay and for Solo's or lead lines a Slap delay and Early Reflections reverb.To my ears this really separates the 2 components of the song, the solo's jump out at you and the backup stays behind in the mix where it belongs.

Regardless, if what you do sounds good to your ears then it's a wrap.

Start with your stock settings..and adjust from there..

Good Luck..and take notes..
t

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 25 June 2004 at 06:54 AM.]

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