Roland GR-33 Guitar Synthesizer

Gary Ball · From: Lapwai, Idaho, USA

Anybody know what pickup or adaptor you would use on a Steel for this thing? Thanks.

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

Moved to "Electronics" section.

JB Arnold · From: Longmont,Co,USA (deceased)

I don't believe you can-isn't that midi driven, with a special pickup that has to go on the guitar, or even a special axe you have to use? If there's a real guitar synth that will work just by plugging in a guitar cord to a regular pickup, I'm not aware of it.

JB

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John Floyd · From: R.I.P.

Get in Contact with Mike Brewer. He has done some experimenting with Midi Pickups for steel guitar and quite possibly may be manufacturing them by now.

mbrewer@direcway.com

[This message was edited by John Floyd on 15 January 2004 at 01:22 PM.]

Gary Ball · From: Lapwai, Idaho, USA

Thanks John

Dr. Hugh Jeffreys · From: Southaven, MS, USA

You are obligated to use the Roland 6-string pickup. It will not work on steel. The pickup is frequency sensitive: must be installed from high E to low E on guitar. It works ok on a regular guitar, but there are many pitch bends because of its high sensitivity. It picks up extraneous sounds like rubbing your finger across the strings. I tried using 2 pickups on my steel, but on fast passages, I heard only about 1/3 of what I played. Tracking is much too slow for steel. Hugh

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

You could mount one E to E on C6 and use it for what It CAN do, and not use it where it doesn't track.

But also you must have a synth that is either compatible with the global pitch bend, and that might take some tweaking,
or without and make sure your on pitch with the bar relative to the synth output.

J J Harmon · From: Reynolds, GA 31076

Piezo pups track better but they have to have contact with the string which would require a changer with the pups built in or like I saw some where, the changer on the other end.

I corresponded with someone who built a 10 pickup out of 2 gk2a's. This is required because the spacing of the gk2a and radius doesn't fit for a pedal steel.

I had an extra gk2a and I put it on a 6 string non-pedal and it performs like Dr. said.

Jay Fagerlie · From: Lotus, California, USA

I know Pete Grant has one on an old Supro....Hey Pete, how does it track?
Any tips?
I have a GK and GR33 setup I was thinking about puting on one of my lap steels ......

Jay

Gary Ball · From: Lapwai, Idaho, USA

Mike Brewer tells me the IVL Steel Rider is the unit to get. They quit making them in the 80s. He says there are a few around yet so if anybody has one or knows the whereabouts of one that might be for sale I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the discussion everybody.

Matt Steindl · From: New Orleans, LA, USA

Dave Easley has a midi rig. Sounds great, but have no idea what it is.

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Pete Grant · From: Auburn, CA, USA

I have an also no-longer-available setup that used infrared sensors that are on either side of the strings, so the strings run through the pickups. It would only work for a 6 string. I first had it on a dobro, but the acoustic nature of the instrument had it activating strings I wasn't playing, so I put it on a Supro.

I had fun with the setting where it plays the closest half step. Slant bars were a breeze.

I may still play around with the rig, but one night I took it to a gig and I realized, gee, I can sound just like a synthesizer. That's when I stopped using it.

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