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Topic: Electronic Keyboards |
Billy Wilson
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El Cerrito, California, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 11:03 pm |
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| Has any body ever tried to set these things up so that they could be ajusted to play just intonation for each key? This means you would have to change the setting for each key that was played in. I could see that playing tunes that modulate to other keys could be a problem. I have a Kurzweil PC88 and when you put it to the tuner every note makes the needle go straight up to 0. When you tune the steel guitar strings and changes to nice and sweet it sounds horrible with the piano. Is there any possible help here. Thanks for any replys from all yuou geniuses out there. Bill W |
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Dave Boothroyd
From:
Staffordshire Moorlands
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Posted 2 Dec 2003 12:36 am
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A lot of Keyboards have a master set up page which allow you to choose the intonation scheme and scale type.
You can get a Korg with keyboard for about £250 over here which can be set to Pythagorean, Werkmeister, even Pelog, if you fancy a go at some Gamelan stuff.
Alternatively, get one of these:- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2576632527&category=1287
and connect it to your Kurzweil via Midi.
Cheers
Dave |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 2 Dec 2003 6:53 am
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| Be forewarned that fixed pitch instruments like keyboards that are tuned JI can have serious intonation problems even if they stay within one key. On another thread, while playing around with chords made from a JI scale, I discovered that the I, IV and V chords all have good intervals (i.e. 3rds around 437 and 5ths near straight up), but some other chords, namely II and VI were way off. I am sure that variable pitched instruments (fretless strings, horns, voices) will compensate for this by ear and will play harmony pitches to fit the chord intervals rather than the strict JI scale. But fixed pitch instruments can't do this. Interestingly, steel guitars can do this when they tune the open strings JI for the tonic and get the II and VI by moving the bar up the neck. But of course steel guitars run into problems when they use tunings like C6, where you get different chords by going up the strings rather than up the neck, or if they use chords more complicated than simple majors and minors. [This message was edited by David Doggett on 02 December 2003 at 06:54 AM.] |
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Billy Wilson
From:
El Cerrito, California, USA
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Posted 2 Dec 2003 1:58 pm
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| Thanks guys BW |
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Dave Van Allen
From:
Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 3 Dec 2003 10:42 am
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| When you tune the steel guitar strings and changes to nice and sweet it sounds horrible with the piano. |
if your goal is to sound in tune with the keyboard, then tune the steel to stright up on the tuner.
you will end up much more in tune with the KB (as well as many other instruments on a bandstand) than by trying to make the KB matchup to the steel....
but if your goal is a noble experiment in intonation, then have at it.[This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 03 December 2003 at 10:45 AM.] |
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