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Topic: Super Twin Reverb for Steel ? |
James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Jul 2003 7:50 pm
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Has any one tried a super twin for steel? They are kinda rare to run across, but are loaded with power. What mods have you used to "sweeten'" your's up? I have aquired one, but want to know more about steeling through them before I spend my bux on mods. Will they make a good steel amp? I already know it's heavyer than a bus, but mine has castors, and if I keep it, I will install pedals and a steering wheel!!! |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 2:42 am
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I have one, and used it for 7 or 8 years. Talked about it here several times.
Mods? On this amp? You gotta be kidding! This is already the ultimate "clean-sound" tube amp, with unGODly power, and a variety of tone (EQ) controls that give you sounds that no other amp on the planet is capable of.
Down sides...it weighs a ton, and the reverb's usefullness is limited due to the very effective (active) EQ circuit. If you don't write down that favorite setting you found, you'll spend all night trying to find it again.
Nevertheless, it's one awesome amp.
Nothing else even comes close.
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 3:44 am
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Thanx Donny!! I was wondering if you changed out the speakers or ran stock. Mine still has stock. Makes me wonder what a pair of JBL's would bring to the "tone table". What kind of steel did you play through your Super? |
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Johan Jansen
From: Europe
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 6:11 am
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James, I used to have one for steel, sounded great at low volumes, but that is still loud on a supertwin!
Try it with a 15 " JBL or Black Widow!
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Click on the pic!
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Stephen Gambrell
From: Over there
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 7:58 am
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Is this the one with the red knobs? And is it the same as the Evil Twin? |
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Jon Light
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 8:16 am
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uh uh. This is a twin with 6 instead of 4 6L6 tubes. Rated (maybe fancifully) at 180W and weighing something like a mere 95lbs. according to the Fender Field guide. Got a trailer hitch on your pickup? No prob. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 9:13 am
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No it's not the Evil Twin (red knobs)
i got one !
it ain't no Super Twin
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Brad Sarno
From: St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 5:11 pm
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Who said "boat anchor"?
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Brad Sarno
Blue Jade Audio Mastering
St. Louis
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Jul 2003 9:29 pm
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BOAT ANCHOR?!?!?!? Don't forget to un plug it first, or they'll get you for illegal fishin'!!! (Might pull your boat under, too!! HA HA) >>>>No Stephan, the Super Twin was made in the mid seventies for just a few years. It was targeted toward the rockers, but never caught on, so was dropped from production. This amp has a distortion that really sucks---couldn't begin to compete with Marshals of that era. You can play this amp at "10" and you couldn't get it to over drive and "break up", BUT at "10", you COULD make your ears bleed as well as break glass it's so clean----just what rockers don't want. Problem I am seeing with them for steel, is these amps are a little "cold and harsh" toned, and the reverb seems lacking. Thus, I am seeing how others have set their's up. Any one ever get a 15" speaker to fit in a Super Twin, Johan? Ain't much room there!! |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Jul 2003 2:22 pm
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You're right James, the "distortion" setting on this amp sucks. This amp is about clean power, and limitless tonal choices. As for changing speakers, it's totally unnecessary with this amp. Most everyone changes speakers to get a different tone, or sound. With this amp, all you gotta do is twist a few knobs, and any tone you can think of (and a lot that you can't even begin to think of) is right there. The tonal range of this amp is phenomenal, and that's putting it mildly! There's just no other combo amp in the world that will give you more tone choices than this one will. Evans? Webb? Peavey 1000? Standel? Rivera? Nope...none of 'em are even in the ball park compared to this monster!
The only 15" speaker that might handle what this amp will put out (180w RMS-360w peak) is the Black Widow. It may fit, but as I said before...why bother?
(By the way, Fender never made a tube amp that was "cold" or "harsh sounding". You must be thinking of Sunn's, Vox's, and Marshall's ) |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 5 Jul 2003 5:22 pm
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would using 2 15" BWs be feasible w: this amp ?
ext cab |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jul 2003 8:12 pm
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Crowbear, There is not an extension jack. You would probably have to unplug the speaker and loose the two twelves, and use that jack. There is a line out/output jack for a P.A., though. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Jul 2003 10:18 am
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For a long time, I played a large club. In order to be heard (over the B3, and the screaming leads), I used the speakers in the amp, as well as two 15" EVM's in a JBL-design enclosure (which I built). I made a box that had a pigtail on it which plugged into the amp. The box had 2 jacks, and a DPDT switch so I could "phase" the speakers properly. It was a totally awesome sound, with that Super-Twin pushing 2 twelves, and 2 fifteens at the same time! (The B3 didn't have a chance). I got many chuckles from making the whole 8x36 foot stage vibrate like the hood on a race car. Yeah, that's back when I was young and stupid!
Everyone heard me, though. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 6 Jul 2003 12:14 pm
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now that's more like it. Thanx Donny
what's the lowest impedance on this beast ?
4 ohms? |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Jul 2003 1:19 pm
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When "pushing it" (which is why you use an amp like this, anyway), you should keep the impedance at the amp's ideal, which is 4 ohms. I ran mine at 2, and never had a problem, but I did install a cooling fan to make sure the transylformers, rectalfires, and silicode capacitaters stayed "nice an cool". |
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Ed Miller Jr
From: Coldwater,Mi USA
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Posted 6 Jul 2003 1:52 pm
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I love Mine. great steel amp and the teles, smoke through it too!
BTW, the only "mod" I did on mine was to add a trailer hitch!
-Dang Tank! |
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 8 Jul 2003 7:11 am
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Was a Super Twin amp head ever made? That would at least break up the weight between the head and the speakers. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 8 Jul 2003 7:22 am
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Not by Fender, but some owners have made the conversion. The decision then is whether to go with a closed-back speaker cabinet, or an open-back, like the original. Each has it's own distinct advantages. |
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