Delay Question

Lee Baucum · From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier

I usually drag 2 amps and a small f/x rack to the jobs I play. The rack has a Lex MPX100 and a dual 15-band EQ. With the EQ I can control the tone and the volume of each amp. With the Lex I have programmed some nice sounding reverbs, along with real light chorus with reverb. Most of the venues I play are small. We never mike our amps. I find that I rarely ever touch the Lex, other than to turn up or turn down the reverb.

I think I'm ready to go back to using a simpler set-up.

Mullen U-12
Hilton Digital Sustain
Goodrich 120 V-pedal
Digital Delay Stomp Box
Evans FET-500 (Large Cabinet)

I'm just going to use the reverb on the amp and the little delay box. Can you guys give me any suggestions on setting up the delay, to fatten up the sound? Do you use just one repeat, or do you use multiple repeats? Fast, slow?

Right now, I've got the delay set up to give me one light repeat, right at the end of the reverb decay. It sounds good, but I was just wondering what others were doing.

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Lee, from South Texas

Kevin Hatton · From: Buffalo, N.Y.

Lee. I use one quick hit right behind the plucked note to fatten the sound. Very close. If the delay is too far from the original note it starts to sound spacey to me. Too unatural. The one quick hit with reverb behind it does it for me. Your equipment set-up is excellent

[This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 21 April 2002 at 07:56 PM.]

Len Amaral · From: Rehoboth,MA 02769

Hi Lee:
The type of deley pedal can make a difference on how the steel responds. I find if you use a Boss DD-3 type of pedal with an exact repeat, I use a shorter delay with one repeat with a lower mix ratio. If you use a pedal designed with a (high end roll off) or an analog type of pedal that does not give an exact repeat, you can set the repeat farther apart and add more of the mix and it seems to fatten the sound without sounding artificial. Ibanez makes a sound tank model that has this sound. I loaned mine to a freind but I'll see if I can get the model number.

It's a matter of taste on the digital/analog type of delay.

Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

Hi Lee, I am using an IBANEZ DE7 pedal, it is a Delay/Echo pedal. Not sure of what the exact delay number is but here goes anyway. Delay knob is at 50% on the 30 to 120 range, repeat is at zero, Delay level is about 1/3 of the knob range and the mode is in Delay.
It is set up for a single quick slap with no repeat and moderate delay level. Compared to a Boss RV3 I couldn't really tell the difference and it really sounds good, or at least I think so !

I have some MP3's on my website where I play direct to tape with this pedal. The playing leaves a lot to be desired but the delay sounds good !

good luck
tp
TPrior/SteelGuitarHomesite

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 25 April 2002 at 03:44 AM.]

Joerg Hennig · From: Bavaria, Germany

Since you´re talking about fattening up the sound, the "fattest" sound I get using a delay, mine is a Boss DD-3, is by combining it with a Boss Compression Sustainer. I got the idea when I was in California watching a guitar player named Garland who used to play with Terry Dolan about nine years ago and he did play some "spacey" stuff with that setup. Sure sounds nice to me also on steel sometimes, but I don´t want to overuse it.

Regards, Joe H.

George Kimery · From: Limestone, TN, USA

Paul Franklin has an inexpensive cassette on the use of effect devices that is worth investing in. He covers delay very well and lets you hear what he considers correct. (But what does he know?)

Bill Myrick · From: Pea Ridge, Ar. (deceased)

Lee--- I have used an Ibanez AD9 Analog Delay for years and love it !! It's a very small unit and runs off a 9 volt adaptor. (to see one and get an idea of what people think of their value, go to Ebay and type in Ibanez Analog Delay in the search and check out what the AD9's are bringing. (They are no longer made) I set all three knobs on mine to about the 1 o'clock position and only use it for some turnarounds, etc.
I now have a Profex II which I purchased about 6 months ago (from a fellow forumite)
and I go from my Hilton Pedal to a splitter box and from there to either the Profex or the delay, then on to "little Susie" (Nashville 400). I am very happy with the set up and it handles and moves very eaisly.

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