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Andy Zynda
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Posted 3 Jun 2004 9:13 pm |
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I just nabbed a model 59 (metal body? hollow, 1.5 inch HS pickup) and cant wait to hear it. Hey Rick A., am I going to hear that "moan" type thing? That is of course, one of the main reasons for the purchase. I have a Fender Custom T8, (traps) a New Yorker, and a D8 National Grand Console.
The Nationals are sweet, but slightly bland. The T8 is snarly and rings real nice.
I'm hoping for some singing whine to come out of this ricky. I hope that the metal body models are capable of that "sound". Cant yet afford a bakelite. I'll have to wait and trade up.
One last question for Rick:
I will probably need to remag the magnets yes? I built a magger/de-magger for speaker reconing. (lotta power. enough for ceramic speakers) The gauss well is about 7 inches in diameter, and roughly 5 inches deep.
If I decide to remag these magnets, do I need to pay attention to any special orientation in the well? I'm thinking that I probably will need to, so I'm open for advice.
I had great success remagging my trap pickups in the T8.
Thanks in advance!
-andy-
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Michael Brebes
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Northridge CA
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Posted 7 Jun 2004 7:05 am
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| Rick, thanks for the info about stuffing with towels. I was wondering if stuffing it with something instead of the newspaper would make a difference. My NS has always sounded harsh compared to my SW8 and was hoping there was something I could do to make it more usable. |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 7 Jun 2004 8:38 am
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| Some have been known to use SAND; others cotton balls; newspapers. It's wide open as to choice or preferences. |
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c c johnson
From:
killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Jun 2004 10:35 am
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| Jake Keliikoa told me that Dick McIntyre poured plaster of paris in his frypan. Anyone else heard this? Jake was a great kidder so I don't know if he was putting a very young haole on. CC |
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Andy Zynda
From:
Wisconsin
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Posted 8 Jun 2004 8:58 pm
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Well it's here.
2 problems:
1) Top lifting at the rear, just behind the bridge. How were the tops attached? It looksl like it might be solder.
2) The bass side of the pickup is very weak. The treble side sounds strong and wonderful!
Cant be a winding, has to be a magnet problem yes?
Reattaching the top... would also mean repainting the thing. I'd like to avoid that if at all possible.
Looking for advice and suggestions.
-andy-
(thanks in advance to all the helpers out there!)
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John Pelz
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Kettering, Ohio, USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2004 9:52 pm
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| Jake Keliikoa told me that Dick McIntyre poured plaster of paris in his frypan. Anyone else heard this? |
Hey C C -- I found the following at theHSGA website.
"To sound more like Dick [McIntire], Gary [Anderson] filled the neck with plaster of Paris to stabilize it against temperature changes and painted it black crinkle, as Dick had done with his."
Sounds like "a very young haole" wasn't being put on!
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c c johnson
From:
killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Jun 2004 3:19 am
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| mahalo John. Jake would tell so many storys it was very hard to separate the bull. He was a great entertainer though as well as a fine steel player. CC |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2004 3:33 am
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| 2) The bass side of the pickup is very weak. The treble side sounds strong and wonderful! |
Remag and stuff with terry cloth towels.
If that doesn't fix the weak bass ... You will also want to do my Spongebob Mod . (Click adjusting the non-adjustable).
If the bass strings are too far from their pole pieces .. no matter how strong the magnets are ... you will have poor performance.
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1) Top lifting at the rear, just behind the bridge. How were the tops attached? It looksl like it might be solder.
I just helped a guy strip his postwar Model NS to the bare steel ... you could see the weld beads that had been ground smooth ... well, sorta.
Silver Hawaiians may have been brazed ... they might have done that with the 59s too ???
Either way, I suggest some high strength epoxy ... like West Systems ... that'll hold it for the next 50 yrs.
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www.horseshoemagnets.com [This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 09 June 2004 at 06:10 AM.] |
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Bill Creller
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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 9 Jun 2004 4:12 am
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Hal Smith fromm Canada, Vancouer I think, has one of Dick's frypans. It was filled in the neck with plaster of paris, and there is a concern now that the aluminum casting is corroding from the moisture attracted by the plaster. I sure wouldn't use that stuff, and there must be other permanent things to use,like some type of epoxy etc.
Bobby Ingano keeps saying that the solid neck frypans have more sustain, so maybe thats why people loaded the necks with some sort of stuffing.
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Andy Zynda
From:
Wisconsin
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Posted 9 Jun 2004 5:50 am
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High strength epoxy. I like it! Wont have to repaint. (yay!)
Rick, do you have a source for the stuff that you mentioned?
I'll remag the magnets, and do the terrycloth push-up mod (heh heh...) and let you know how it goes.
Thanks to all forumites for your advice, help and comments. And a special thanks to Rick, for becoming obsessed with horseshoes in the first place. And for sharing the results of his hard work and dedication.
-andy-
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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