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Dougie Hodge
From:
Grove City, PA / Hendersonville, TN USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2001 9:19 am |
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Hi Paul, I'm a friend of Jerry Brightman's and have a question for you. I recently got a Boogie Studio Preamp from a friend of mine, so I know where it's been. My Tele w/Active EMG's just kills through it. When I got the Preamp, I put new Boogie tubes in it that I had on hand when I previously owned Boogies. My Emmons LeGrandeII w/ Lawrence L-710, distorts(on clean channel) through Boogie, even at lower input volume settings. Right at the moment, I'm running it into my Evans SE-200. I've even tried it through my studio recorder, it still distorted my steel. Can you help? Thanks, Dougie P.S.- If I could possibly talk to you over phone would help better. You can e-mail me at: pedalsteelripgrind@hotmail.com or contact Jerry, he'll get ahold of me. Thanks again! "Steel Rocks!!!!!"  |
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Michael Brebes
From:
Northridge CA
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Posted 19 Sep 2001 6:45 pm
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I'm not Paul, but I had a similar problem with having L710s driving the preamp. What I recommend is that you change the input circuit to imitate the low gain input of a Fender tube amplifier. The input directly feeds the grid of the tube, with a 1 meg ohm resistor to ground. What you need to do is pull the wire off the input jack. Then take two 68K ohm resistors in series and place them between the hot lead of the jack and ground. Then reattach the wire removed from the jack to where the two 68K resistors are soldered together.
Hot---68K---*---68K---Ground
where * is where the wire attaches to.
Hope this helps. I loved it after this simple mod.
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Michael Brebes
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 20 Sep 2001 2:15 am
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Check the distance between the strings and the L710 pickups. If the pickup is too close to the strings you can get distortion.
Paul Franklin, Sr told me minimum of 3/16" distance when I changed out the pickups in my Franklin Steel. I acually set them a "loose" 3/16" (probably closer to 1/4") and when he saw it he told me I had them set correctly.
I'm not sure how much adjustment you have on the Emmons but try to get them around the 3/16" distance and that may help your distortion problems. |
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 20 Sep 2001 6:16 am
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Check your e-mail,Dougie!
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Olli Haavisto
Polar steeler
Finland
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Dougie Hodge
From:
Grove City, PA / Hendersonville, TN USA
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ajm
From:
Los Angeles
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Posted 21 Sep 2001 6:46 am
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"Will this Mod., effect the sound, output, and tone that I get playing my Lead Guitar(Telew/Active EMG's) also? My Lead Guitar just Kills through it!....I really don't have a problem just plugging into the Evans, even running into my Rocktron Compressor/Limiter/HushII between my Emmons and Evans input."
Dougie, this mod will almost certainly affect anything that you plug into the input. You can try it to see if it is a workable solution for you. But my gut feel is if you like the sound of the Tele with the amp the way that it is, my plan of attack would be to find a way to fix the steel problem. Lots of guys will tell you that a good Tele tone is tough enough to get in the first place. You may end up fixing one problem and creating another. I believe that you have several things to try already: pickup height and or use a different amp solely for the steel.
What it sounds like you need to do is to cut back the level going into the Boogie from the steel. You could probably accomplish this by going through your "rack" and just lowering the steel level sent to the amp. Also, despite the pros/cons expressed elsewhere on this forum, I still think that compressor/limiters can be a useful tool. You might want to experiment with it to attenuate some of the unintentional peaks that may be causing a problem.
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Dougie Hodge
From:
Grove City, PA / Hendersonville, TN USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2001 10:10 am
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| Hey, Thanks alot guys for the info!!!! I might just call Boogie and see if they could help me further, to make a call on what I should do. The "Studio Preamp, does have 2 instrument inputs(1-on front,1-on back),thought not recomended to run both at once, maybe I could make the mod to just the input I'd use for my Steel, and use the other for strickly guitar, since I don't have 'em both plugged in at the same time anyway. Thanks again!- Dougie _____________________________________________Emmons LeGrande II/Evans SE-200/1-1502BWcab./1-EV EVM-12"cab./Alesis Midiverb 4/Rocktron Comp/Lim/HushII/Boogie Preamp/ Tele "STEEL ROCKS!!!!" |
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Johan Jansen
From:
Europe
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Posted 22 Sep 2001 1:04 am
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AJM said:
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| What it sounds like you need to do is to cut back the level going into the Boogie from the steel. You could probably accomplish this by going through your "rack" and just lowering the steel level sent to the amp |
This is what I did too!
I use a Roland GP 100
I bypass the pre-amp in the GP, and use the boogie in the loop of it.
So it is:
steel>-input GP100> effect send GP>input boogie effect send boogie> volumepedal>effect return boogie>effect return boogie>output boogie>effectreturn GP100> output GP100> wherever you wanna go with it!
This way you can put your pre-amp with volumepedal in the chain where you like it,and tweek al the in- and outputs till you can live with it.
And I am satisfied, for a couple of years now!
regards, Johan
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STEELDAYS 2002
my web-site
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Dougie Hodge
From:
Grove City, PA / Hendersonville, TN USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2001 7:41 am
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| Thanks once again! -Dougie |
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