Geo. L 10-1 vs. PF-2

Larry R · From: Navasota, Tx.

Can anyone tell me the difference between these 2 pu's?

Is one more powerful than the other?
How do they compare in tone?

Thanks.

Kenny Forbess · From: peckerwood point, w. tn.

Larry,
the way mr.Gls daughter (who wounds them for the co.)explained them to me is, the PFs are the Tone in between the 10-1s and the E-66s,
I've used both the 10-1's & the E-66's and liked them both, but i'm currently using the PF-1's on my Derby and really liking what I hear, I'm not changing anytime soon.

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kenny
66 Emmons D-10 8&7
Blue Derby D-10 8&6

Larry R · From: Navasota, Tx.

Kenny, can you categorize for me in order from most bright to darkest tone the Geo L pu's? (i.e. E-66 Bright, 10-1 darker...)

thanks

John Moss · From: Childress, Texas-USA

Hey Larry,
Im am interested myself in the tonal and output differences between the PF-2 and the 10-1.
Somebody please come to the rescue.
Thanks,
John

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Carter guitar used to have a section on their web site that had a comparison between pickups. Check that out as it (used) to have some audio of the different pickups so you can compare.

Larry Clark · From: Herndon, VA.

I spoke with the George L folks a while back when I was looking for something a little brighter than a 10-1 for my E9 neck. They said tonally their pickups went from (brightest to darkest) E66,PF-1,10-1,PF-2. When I asked about the PF-2 specifically I was told that if the 10-1 sounded to dark for my tastes that I really wouldn't like the PF-2. Hope that helps a little.

Al Udeen · From: maple grove mn usa

A few years back, I asked George Lewis what pickup I should have in my, then Mullen "Formica&Metal neck" Guitar. He said 10-1. I put one in "E9 neck". The tone was a bit better than Awesome.

Kenny Forbess · From: peckerwood point, w. tn.

Larry R,
Exactly what Larry Clark said !!

Kenny

Larry R · From: Navasota, Tx.

Bob, I went that direction. It didn't work for me.

Bobby Boggs · From: Upstate SC.

Just who are the world-class players that use the Lawrence pickups? just wondering cause I have a lot of great recordings by BE,TW,PF,LG,Weldon,Jay Dee,etc,etc and they were not using Lawrence pick-ups.Have they all changed to Lawrence?

[This message was edited by Bobby Boggs on 20 September 2000 at 09:05 PM.]

John Moss · From: Childress, Texas-USA

Hey Bobby Boggs,
I guess they must have changed. I feel there is a pickup to fit every person and every guitar. I feel all the top end pickups are great quality and there is none any better than the others.
My Two Cents,
John

Jim Smith · From: Midlothian, TX, USA

My theory is that this is one of the reasons that everyone sounds the same these days. Most of the new guitars are Emmons clones that look, play, and sound the same, and using the same pickups contributes to that.

Bobby Boggs · From: Upstate SC.

Mr.Cole,you admit your just learning but your giving the world advice on pick-ups? I just think differnt pick-ups for different folks.Also I think some pu's work better on some guitars than they do others.But mostly I feel the pick-up thing is over rated. If you play your guitar unpluged and it sounds dead and has no sustain you can put pick-ups on till hell freezes over and it want make much difference.I like the Emmons single coil pu's but there not for everybody. And yes I've tried the L710's and they sound good. One thing I do agree with is its mostly in the hands,a least 90%.BTW I never recorded an album of my own, I have dystonia and gave up studio work in 1990.

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Jim, you hit the nail on the head. I've been saying basically the same thing for quite a while, on various posts. Most (not all) are either using George L's or Lawrence pickups and most have aluminum necks. That tends to make the various brands sound similar to each other - there are some subtle differences but generally they are fairly close. This is really not a bad thing for someone looking for a new steel as they can concentrate on the mechanics and what they want or like and not so much on how it sounds.

I'm not in the market for a new steel but if I were I'd have a helluva time deciding with all the excellent steels available, the only constant would be I'd go with Lawrence pickups.

Bobby Boggs · From: Upstate SC.

Sorry Jack but it's not the pu's or the guitars that make everyone sound the same.It;s trying to keep a gig.I can add the bass to my Emmons and play a Chalker style and it sounds great to me,but try to keep a job playing a Chalker or Tharpe style and it's not going to happen, at least here in the Southeast.The exception would be Johnny Cox and his swing thing in Nashville.But he could not play like that with Connie Smith.

[This message was edited by Bobby Boggs on 21 September 2000 at 07:28 PM.]

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I'll work on the cellular link to the board.

I won't tell you that I was down on the Hotel section of the beach two weekends ago and there was "dental floss" everywhere.

slick · From: Calhoun Georgia

Bobby:
Who is Throp,just curious!!!

Wayne

Jim Smith · From: Midlothian, TX, USA

I think he meant Julian Tharpe.

Bobby Boggs · From: Upstate SC.

Thanks Jim.

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