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Topic: Pop stars are made, not born. |
Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Archie Nicol R.I.P.
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Ayrshire, Scotland
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Eric Jaeger
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Oakland, California, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2006 5:14 pm |
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| No matter how cheap, cheesy, and exploitative you think it is, it turns out to be worse... |
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Tom Olson
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Spokane, WA
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Posted 5 Dec 2006 5:41 pm
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This piece makes some excellent points. 1) things are not always what they seem; 2) you don't necessarily need to have talent to make it in the music business; and 3) it doesn't necessarily take a lot of work to write a hit song. Do I smell Milli Vinnilli?
However, with that said, the voice at the very tail end of the video says something very important: "it could be a big hit." (emphasis on COULD, as in possible, but not definite)
They did everything except actually try to sell the song and artist.
But, that brings up another point which is perhaps the most important point of all -- promotion. Obviously, these guys didn't want to (or couldn't) throw millions of dollars into promoting this song and artist.
If they HAD thrown millions of dollars into promotion, it probably would have hit big, and that's probably why most artists today get famous -- millions of dollars worth of promotion.
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2006 7:37 pm
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| I was astonished by the difference in her voice between the actual take in the booth and the final mix. Whoa! |
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Mike Shefrin
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Posted 5 Dec 2006 10:53 pm
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| Yeah, just imagine the day when every steel player has one of those pitch adjusting boxes hooked up onto his or her steel. No more intonation worries. Put "Hal" in the driver's seat. [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 05 December 2006 at 10:54 PM.] |
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Per Berner
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Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 5 Dec 2006 11:08 pm
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| If they can't do it live, they shouldn't be allowed to release a record. The words "ashlee" and "simpson" come to mind... |
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 3:23 am
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| Thanks, b0b. Fascinating, but not in a good way. I knew pitch correction was going on widely today on pop records ,but that was an amazing example of exactly how the wool is being pulled. Wow. |
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Mark Edwards
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Weatherford,Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 4:48 am
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| Really interesting Bob. I'm with Per if they can't do it in front of an audience they shouldn't be doing it. The past CMA's is a classic example. Thanks for sharing some insight. |
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 5:20 am
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| If they can't do it live, they shouldn't be allowed to release a record. |
If you have an "Auto-tune" set up for each key or song, then they can do it live, just like they do in the studio. |
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Jim Gorrie
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Edinburgh ~ road works congestion capital of The World.
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 6:20 am
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Verrree eenteresteeng ~
~ for years I've been telling my wife that I could record a song in a professional studio and the end product would make it sound like I could really sing !
I think she imagines that lots of these pop "stars" can actually sing, so, I'll be making sure that she sees this link !
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Bo Borland
From:
South Jersey -
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 6:58 am
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| I knew programs like pro tools existed but did not realize that it would sound so seamless... |
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Mike Ester
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New Braunfels, Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 10:08 am
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Pop stars are made, not born.
There are two words in "show business". Neither of them say "music".[This message was edited by Mike Ester on 06 December 2006 at 10:09 AM.] [This message was edited by Mike Ester on 06 December 2006 at 10:09 AM.] |
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Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 10:54 am
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Great link!
I don't think live musicians would be used if it was a real worl project. That could all be done with loops, and maybe on keyboard.
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John McGann
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Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Dec 2006 12:57 pm
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| Mommy, can I die now? |
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Mark Butcher
From:
Scotland
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Posted 7 Dec 2006 12:48 am
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| All that technology is available now in your kids bedroom. Garage Band comes free when you buy an Apple Mac. It will get worse. |
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Steinar Gregertsen
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Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Dec 2006 1:11 am
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As someone said a while ago, when speaking of the digital studio revolution:
"The good news is that anybody can record a CD. The bad news is that anybody can record a CD"
Steinar
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"Play to express, not to impress"
www.gregertsen.com
Southern Moon Northern Lights
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 7 Dec 2006 4:15 am
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Now we all know how Kenny Chesney made it........JH in Va.
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Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!!
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Terry Edwards
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Florida... livin' on spongecake...
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Posted 7 Dec 2006 6:58 am
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It gives me a greater appreciation for the Beatles and George Martin and all the great singers and musicians that recorded "live" in the studio.
Terry |
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 7 Dec 2006 7:17 am
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Just a note, Auto-Tune only works on MONOPHONIC source material, so whilst it CAN correct a single line melody, the moment there is harmony involved (on the same channel) it becomes more than slightly unstable and acts DETRIMENTALLY.
It is quite good on Steel and Fiddle, but totally useless on percussive instruments like B@njo's (Thank God) |
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